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[jnecros]

So I broke down and ordered this title from the internets, looks brutal, rogue-like, and I have high hopes. Anyone out there playing already? I will not be getting my copy for a few days, but wanted to get some feedback as far as character class selection. In RPGs I love playing caster/mage-types, but often I do go for your classical thief/stealth characters. As a total nublet to Demon's Souls and PS3 in general, I only own GTA and played that for a few weeks, what is a good choice? I have not decided to play online yet, is it gank city? I figure I should get some game experience first before diving head-long into the abyss.

[Dr. Johbson]

Everything is awesome._{To be taken into account that I use the word awesome at least once for everything that doesn't suck horribly.}

Oh, and I don't really like playing the game, but I can see how many could.

[Zangi]

Gank city? Far from it.  At least on the earlier soul levels.  Most black phantom invasions come after soul level 45-ish.  So if you are moderate on the upgrades, should have some decent gear to prepare you for most of the fights ahead.
EDIT: And thats only if you are alive.  Most black phantom invasions are people trying it out around soul level 45-ish.  There are some out there who make new chars with pure pvp/invasion builds.  Mostly should watch out after getting to around soul level 100-ish... thats where most of the cheap pvp/invasion builds can get devastatingly effective and invasion range becomes 25 soul level difference instead of 10... 

Caster/Mage-Type: Start with a royal...

Classes don't really mean much, except how a person plays in the beginning, so you can make your character a stealthy like mage.

Thief and barbarian class, I believe are the hardest starting classes for new players.  Thief even harder because of low damage output and most new players don't know how to parry/riposte and backstab to make effective use of the dagger.  But, at least the thief starts with some sort of armor while the barbarian has none what-so-ever to begin with.

Actually, the thief armor is my preferred armor, because of weight/stamina/mobility issues wearing better armor...
You will find a lot of other players prefer the higher defense armor then they do light armor... more room for mistakes, but less ability to avoid said mistakes...

Oh.. the shield is your best friend early on...

[jnecros]

Nice man thanks for the reply. I will try out online then, am excited 2 more days or so for the disc to come in the mail. I think I will roll a thief and plan on getting killed a ton until I can figure out how to use the parry/riposte ect, so that way I can be a better player eventually.

[Asehujiko]

Was slightly interested but when i noticed it was ps3 only i got a bunch of fanbois yelling at me for apparently being part of the Hitler Youth among other things for not buying a ps3 just for that game, after which i added the game to my "don't purchase because of horrible community" list for when an emulator comes out.

[Cthulhu]

It looks pretty cool but I'm not going to get a PS3, at least not for a very long time, and certainly not just for Demon's Souls.

[Zangi]

No voice chat and no customized messages make it so you don't really have to deal with the brunt of the fail community like you can find in many other places.

It is like it is, silent partners who are just here to help you and silent enemies who are just here to kill you.  (No taunting/insulting or having to listen to stupid talk...)

[jnecros]

Damn...this game is cool as hell, I am totally addicted. Really hard, but not at all rogue-like. By far the best action-RPG I have ever played. I went with Nobility and am pumping up Dex, magic and intel, pretty much a glass cannon. The Hide spell is not that great and I have basicly given up the stealth idea for now. Yeah, I recomend this game to anyone with a PS3 and a bunch of patience for sure. IMO the PS3 was a sound purchase for me to make, despite that I only have GTA and Demon's Souls, they should keep me busy for a year or so. Now just need to find something equally worthwile for my damn dust covered Wii...besides Chocobo's D and Boroque.

[Croquantes]

Demon's Souls is so fun, but it's sooOooo hard! Why does Atlus hate me?

Anyone have any tips for the third boss? It just sort of steam rolls over me; I don't know what to do. I used most of my healing items while taking only 25% of its health.

[Zangi]

Sweet, the Nexus has captured more Demon Slayers.

@Croquantes: The 3rd boss?  I think you need to be more specific, the boss of which archstone?  Or if you don't know, describe the boss/setting.  Put that in spoilers so the other new players can find out for themselves.

@jnecros: Oh, there are some reasons why stealth is useful.  It is subtle, yet profound... You'd notice if you take a run through the same place a couple of times with stealth stuff on and off.
Also, the hide spell is on for only a limited amount of time... if I remember correctly.  (I'm not too much of a spell person...)

[chaoticag]

Also, gender sort of matters in this game, there are male and female only armor littered about.

Spoiler: Combat tips (click to show/hide)

Also, the harder the shield the better. If it is too heavy for you to use effectively, remember that the only stat that suffers is its bash ability.Not that I recomend you use a heavy shield for all occasions, but it may be a must for some battles. Blocking also deflects hits, with stronger hits deflected based on the shield's ability to block.

Also, riptose the blue knights, as it reliably kills them in a hit. General stratagy here is to let your shield down untill they are about to strike. (does not apply to the claymore knight)

Alternately, keep your sheild up untill they are about to shield bash you, then sidestep and backstab. Not as good as a parry and riptose, but easier to pull off.

If you can fight at a range while near ledges, do so. The last thing you want to do is roll off a cliff due to demonic workplace saftey standards.

Certain enemies have certain weaknesses, keep that in mind. For the most part, it makes sense, or you are told outright. Magic, seemingly kills almost everything.

Watch your step, walking off cliffs is a stupid thing to do, but my older brother can pull it off on a regular basis.

Fight those damn electric sapient squids at a distance. If fighting close range, follow an attack-retreat stratady

Spoiler: spoilery tips spoiler (click to show/hide)

Do not use stones of ephemiral eyes haphazardly. Every time you die, the world tendancy shifts a bit more to black, causing more dangerous enemies to pop up. Dieing as a soul doesn't count.

You CAN accidentally kill important NPCs. Can you guess what you shouldn't do?

Save up the souls from boss fights. According to legends that come straight from stratagy guides, they can be used to make Uber weapons.

The first boss can be beaten, provided you are well coordinated with his attacks. He drops an artifact katana that harms you per swing. You still die though.

If you happened to find which door is opened by the mausoleom key, DO NOT ENTER period. Even your shield will not save you.

Also, if you happen to finish the game (which I haven't) you can start over with harder enemies plus your own equipment.

[jnecros]

So a build question for those in the know:

I am thinking 50dex, 50magic, and 50 spellpower; with my random other points that I have spent up to now I will have to be SL 118 to realise my build, currently SL29. I never use a shield, I always duel wield fight, and of course use magic attacks and random ranged attacks if magic points are low. Am I going to be sucking without boosting Vit and End past 10 each?

[Zangi]

Vit isn't necessary.  Its either get more or just leave it as is.  Vit helps in pvp survival though, as long as the enemy isn't wielding super damage weapons that can 2-3 hit you regardless.

Endurance, it can't hurt, especially when it comes to stamina.  But, if you find that you are fine with the amount of stamina you have now, then its ok to leave it alone. 

And since you are categorized as a dex guy... the only reason to get more strength is for more access to different weapons you come across...

Spoiler: Blacksmith (click to show/hide)

If you unlock the blacksmith in the 2nd archstone(Burrow King/Stonefang Tunnel) and give him Red Hot Demon's Soul... you can upgrade into better weapons then what the Nexus one can do.  Well, he could already upgrade better... it just gives some more options which you probably won't get to around the first play through unless you spend time at it.

[Croquantes]

@Croquantes: The 3rd boss?  I think you need to be more specific, the boss of which archstone?  Or if you don't know, describe the boss/setting.  Put that in spoilers so the other new players can find out for themselves.

Oh, derp. I mean, the first boss of Stonefang. It just happened to be the third boss I fought. :B

[Zangi]

Ah... him... I don't know your status and equipment... so here is a generalization... of what can be done.

Spoiler: Generalized 1st Stonefang Tunnel Boss Strategy (click to show/hide)

There is a hiding spot in the far back of where you start to the right, can't get hit there.
Bring Blue Phantoms to help out, if you are alive and if you want.  Not required.
Thief's ring or the Hide spell is a good friend, it makes it so that the boss isn't as accurate with the shots...
Fire resistance, of course is good to have to help mitigate mistakes.  Purple Flame Shield has its uses here if you have it.  But you can do without that specific shield.
Don't try to dodge when it has spider web on you. Cause you won't and it leaves you open.  Don't believe you can run either...
It has different move sets when you are far or close.

Melee strategy:
Don't try to get up close when it does the fireball spam it has a limited range, same range when it shoots 2 spider webs at you.  Thats where you want to wait before getting up close. 
When you finally do get up close, run up with your shield up just in case, not just walk.  Dodge the spider web shots.
Get up close and to the side, after it tries to body slam you... thats when its safest attack.  You can of course take a swing or two after each of its attacks, depending on your weapon speed.
RUN FAR AWAY when it starts doing a charge up move and flames begin to foam out of its mouth...


Ranged/Magic strategy: Just lock-on, dodge when you can/need to... Bring lots of arrows/mana stuffs...
Best timing for a hit is after a spider web shot, when its coming down before shooting a fireball, thats when you release.
When it spams fireballs, free hits.
When it does the super flames, get back.  The range is longer then the fireball spam.  A fine time to attack too.