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[dakarian]

Btw, Cobalt, another question.

Do you believe Meph to be town or scum?

[Cheeetar]

So then why are you lynching him if you know he's town?

To confirm Dakarian, so what he has said so far can be trusted as genuine scum hunting and for the possibility that he will survive the night and we can roleclaim to him.

[webadict]

So then why are you lynching him if you know he's town?

To confirm Dakarian, so what he has said so far can be trusted as genuine scum hunting and for the possibility that he will survive the night and we can roleclaim to him.

One, no PMs. Two, there's easier way and that's a big waste of a mislynch. Three, we could do the same to you.

[Cheeetar]

1. D:, but we can still trust his scumhunting.
2. What easier way? If you have one, please say it.
3. But why would you?

[CobaltKobold]

@Dakarian: Scum, as I think you are scum. I'm taking his forensics with a grain of salt as they couldn't answer Leafsnail and (anti)millers/godfathers are always possible. (And, well, plain ol' scum lying.) The throwing self on lynch block is rather suspect too.

@Cheeetar: Bit of a hole in your scheme there.
PPE:Ninja'd by webby.

[Cheeetar]

If you were town, and you could confirm a townie at the cost of your own life, you would. A confirmed townie is a huge boon to the town.

[webadict]

If you were town, and you could confirm a townie at the cost of your own life, you would. A confirmed townie is a huge boon to the town.

Yeah, that happens when they die. Why don't we use the ones from yesterday or the day before, huh?

[Cheeetar]

...? I don't get quite what you are trying to say.

[webadict]

...? I don't get quite what you are trying to say.

Basically that lynching them is stupid and a bad way to end the day, especially since it's likely to end in dakarian's death.

[Cheeetar]

Why is it stupid. If we confirm Dakarian, he will probably be protected during the night and we will be able to trust all the scumhunting he has done.

[webadict]

Why is it stupid. If we confirm Dakarian, he will probably be protected during the night and we will be able to trust all the scumhunting he has done.

Uh huh. This just makes the WIFOM easier.

[Cheeetar]

...? I don't get quite what you are trying to say.

[dakarian]

Cobalt...

The reason you aren't voting for Meph is because...

But, I think I want to lynch scum, rather than lynching town to find town. Therefore, vote stays on you.

Which suggests you don't want to lynch Meph-Town.  The quote also shows you believe that I might have a role that messes with his inspection (I believe you're after 'godfather' as the "looks town but isn't" role).

However when I ask if you think Meph is scum you say this:

@Dakarian: Scum, as I think you are scum. I'm taking his forensics with a grain of salt as they couldn't answer Leafsnail and (anti)millers/godfathers are always possible. (And, well, plain ol' scum lying.) The throwing self on lynch block is rather suspect too.

So if he's scum why are you NOT voting for him in order to KILL A SCUM?   

In fact, why would you even bring up the issue of millers and antimillers and godfathers if he's scum since HE WOULD JUST LIE ABOUT THE CLAIM ANYWAY.

Millers/antimillers/godfather only come into play if the investigator is Town.



So you believe Meph is scum but you do NOT want to vote for him because I might be an anti-miller? 

No.. that makes no sense.  Townies want scum lynched.  If they know of two scum they'll want both lynched and what does it matter which goes first?


No, what makes more sense is if you don't want Meph to die, but you want me to die.  Why?  Depends:

If Meph is scum then, of course, you want him to live and to have my roleflip 'confirm' him.

If Meph is town then, of course, you want him to live because that would provide a strong defense towards me who you want killed no matter what.

Even the most foolish of townies would lynch ALL scum they find and wouldn't give up one scum for another.  I know you are far from foolish as town.  As scum, though, you just showed your true intentions.

Unvote-Meph

Vote CobaltKobold

Cobalt, thank you for the final piece I needed.  Die today or you die tomorrow.  But you WILL die.

[Cheeetar]

Unvote Mephansteras.
Vote CobaltKobold.
'Oh my god you're changing your vote really quickly without reasoning'
I already believed he was scum. I voted Meph to get a confirmed townie. Now that Dakarian has noticed something that is pretty substantial evidence Cobalt was scum, there is the near certainty that he WILL get lynched, so I will vote for him. Yes, I unvoted when I saw he could not be lynched. I might as well put my vote to use.

[CobaltKobold]

Cobalt...

The reason you aren't voting for Meph is because...

But, I think I want to lynch scum, rather than lynching town to find town. Therefore, vote stays on you.

Which suggests you don't want to lynch Meph-Town.

Taken out of context, this is laughably absurd as scum-attack. "You're scum 'cause you don't want to lynch town over scum."

The quote also shows you believe that I might have a role that messes with his inspection (I believe you're after 'godfather' as the "looks town but isn't" role).

it's BYOR. Role abilities are going to show up in interesting combinations, most likely. Antimiller is the specific ability that shows up town. Godfather is a kill-immune antimiller mafioso, usually.

However when I ask if you think Meph is scum you say this:

@Dakarian: Scum, as I think you are scum. I'm taking his forensics with a grain of salt as they couldn't answer Leafsnail and (anti)millers/godfathers are always possible. (And, well, plain ol' scum lying.) The throwing self on lynch block is rather suspect too.

So if he's scum why are you NOT voting for him in order to KILL A SCUM?   

Why, I have a very good reason! Wait for it...

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

Aside from voting for YOU to KILL A SCUM.

In fact, why would you even bring up the issue of millers and antimillers and godfathers if he's scum since HE WOULD JUST LIE ABOUT THE CLAIM ANYWAY.

Millers/antimillers/godfather only come into play if the investigator is Town.

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

Yes, he would. Soooo...this loses my argument nothing that I see.

So you believe Meph is scum but you do NOT want to vote for him because I might be an anti-miller? 

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

No, I'm suggesting lynching scum on which I have a voluminous case over someone who is scum based on this later connection.

No.. that makes no sense.  Townies want scum lynched.  If they know of two scum they'll want both lynched and what does it matter which goes first?

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

It doesn't prima facie. But, if I think you're both scum, then you coming up scum gets more information for town than if not.

No, what makes more sense is if you don't want Meph to die, but you want me to die.  Why?  Depends:

If Meph is scum then, of course, you want him to live and to have my roleflip 'confirm' him.

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

Of course.

If Meph is town then, of course, you want him to live because that would provide a strong defense towards me who you want killed no matter what.

Even the most foolish of townies would lynch ALL scum they find and wouldn't give up one scum for another.  I know you are far from foolish as town.  As scum, though, you just showed your true intentions.

Spoiler: This argument is unnecessary. A far better one is below. (click to show/hide)

So...I wouldn't give up one scum (dakarian) for another (Meph). Thank you for pointing out that your argument holds no water, and showing your true intentions, and making a complete fool of yourself. I know you are far from foolish as town.

Unvote-Meph

Vote CobaltKobold[/quote]You are sooo scummy.

Actually, there's a very good reason I'm not voting for him.

Unvote CobaltKobold, vote Mephansteras.
After Meph turns up town and Dakarian is either night-killed or protected, we should lynch Cobalt.

Mephansteras was at L-1, at the time I posted that. Now, you have put Mephansteras at L-2. Now, let's see, what was it...oh yeah.

Very well, though just in case something goes wrong in the night, I'll want time to make an overall writeup.

You still want that?

Cobalt, thank you for the final piece I needed.  Die today or you die tomorrow.  But you WILL die.

bloodthirsty much? Your piece is laughable.