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[CobaltKobold]

Spoiler: a little more miscellany-need to organise better (click to show/hide)

Filed under "fucking strange"

Funny how Mr.Person uses the arguments of the person he's voting for to switch to the person they're voting for despite hating the scum that gave him the reasons.

Zai [10]: Mr.Person, ToonyMan, Rashilul, SHAD0Wdump, Dakarian, SirBayer, CobaltKobold, Neruz, Mephansteras, Cheeetar

Argh, had to assemble this one myself.
Neruz [9]: Cheeetar, CobaltKobold, Apostolic Nihilist, RedWarrior0, Vector, Rashilul, Dakarian, SHAD0Wdump, Toonyman

CobaltKobold [7]: Cheeetar, Vector, Mr.Person, Webadict, Mephansteras, Dakarian, SirBayer

Conclusions:

Vote Dakarian. Appeals to emotion (5), faulty arguments, failed reasoning, hypocrisy (5+? wasn't counting there), and a cherry of a couple thirdvotes...and, something I didn't notice, is, he's pointing out that "no, I'm really the thirdvote" for some wifom!
Toonyman. Toony and is doing a lot of "btw I'm town" and toony's doing a lot of unsupported arguments. Also hammering the lynch when he thought Neruz was town.
WebadictWebadict's doing a lot of mad-lib-attacks (I'm not specifying, find it yourself) allowing people to fill in his attacks, and missing a lot of details, which is not in townweb file. Also, his earlier posts are metaunlike townweb-possibly due to the computer lack thing, as it has fixed, which is one reason he's down here. Has a patent disregard for townlife.
Mephansteras - Lurky, wifom in his selfmeta, and a fair amount of "btw I'm town" things.
Sirbayer is being scummy in a couple ways, but seems more to horse around than anything else.
Rashilul is being a bloody lurker and doing some stupid shit, but...too lurky to read well.

[SirBayer]

WTF, mates?

Spoiler: a little more miscellany-need to organise better (click to show/hide)

Zai [10]: Mr.Person, ToonyMan, Rashilul, SHAD0Wdump, Dakarian, SirBayer, CobaltKobold, Neruz, Mephansteras, Cheeetar

Argh, had to assemble this one myself.
Neruz [9]: Cheeetar, CobaltKobold, Apostolic Nihilist, RedWarrior0, Vector, Rashilul, Dakarian, SHAD0Wdump, Toonyman

CobaltKobold [7]: Cheeetar, Vector, Mr.Person, Webadict, Mephansteras, Dakarian, SirBayer

You appear in bold... twice there. On all of them except yourself.

And this is supposed to be your "wagon count".

So, uh... what are you trying to tell us here?

[CobaltKobold]

PPE Sirbayer: I do that because I am under consideration as much as the others I bolded. If I didn't, it would look like I was trying to avoid it. The bold is meant to show who's being looked at right now. Perhaps "wagon search" or "lynch records" would be better. Wouldn't be the first time a word choice has screwed me up to little point.

-You use any attempt to lynch someone you can grab, even if you don't believe in it (i.e. my 3rd vote).

That wasn't an attempt to lynch you, it was what it said on the tin: noting the eccentricity. THIS is an attempt to lynch you.

[webadict]

Spoiler: CobaltKobold's Attack on me (click to show/hide)

Y'know, it'd be nice if people would READ these. Last time I made one it didn't seem to. I'll link my old analysis of webadict when I come to it.

Mephansteras. For always being scum. He's scum again as well.

[SCUM IS ALWAYS SCUM]

Hmmm...

We'll see. Unvote.

Oh, and I dunno...

SirBayer is pretty scummy, I suppose.

This is not town-webadict. This is weak and vacillating.

From what I've seen.  Eduren don't give jack shit about defending himself, atleast Town.  Hmmm....

And with that, I am officially done with my RVS.


Eduren, last time i made an early attack like that the person turned out to be scum.  Did I just do it again?

Scummy.

It was a generalization, I suppose!

Passiveness.. from Webadict!?

Unpossible

This is strange behavior for you, Webadict. Random voting? Not having a big list of scum printed out? You keep changing who you're focusing on? Something's off with Webadict, I can tell you that for sure. Webadict, who is the scum?

Others agree something is off with Web

People truly underestimate RVS.

This was one of the better ones, I think.  Shook a lot of folks up and provided a lot of targets to aim for.

Honestly, I'd consider anyone who doesn't have SOMEONE they question highly suspect at this point.. or lurking .

Fakeedit:

Insults just show you to be emotional.  That means you're either losing control of yourself as scum, or easy to control as town.  You were in Bay 12.  Turning on Jerk Mode just gets townies killed.

It took me FOSing and prodding you to FINALLY get something real out of you.  That's not a good sign.


I didn't put much stock towards your vote because you had nothing to attack.  "Scummy!" is vague and senseless and your anti-OMGUS claim is new and untested, and doesn't work well when it just catches someone who's questioning others while focused on a real threat.  You should've seen that I'm pushing Eduren and he's not done my questions yet.  You're acting ugly but not enough to make me give up on Eduren to hunt you.  I'd rather you keep speaking so I can read you better.

Unemotional: null tell.  I don't consider one vote with little content more than a RV. 


A real attack, but it took a good few prods to get it out of you.  Noted.

Insulting, but that's your personality.

Duh, saying nothing important: noted.

It took you're talking a lot to make me think you're scum. Big difference.

Stagedfight?

They fight a while with much sound and fury but little content on either side...both lack explanations for much, calling each other on it hypocritically...

And I told you: I don't do Meta.

While everyone else might not agree...I think Web is a townie. Mainly for all the raeging. And he did that in P11 and he was a townie.

I told you: I don't do Meta.

...translation: No, your townmeta on me is false.
Also, this is as plausible as Mr.Person's "I have a strict anti-WIFOM policy".

Webadict gets to L-1 or 2. Cheeetar attacks...doesn't hammer...EDUREN PARDONS (or claims to). Everyone gets off him...and mysteriously, never come back.

I'd rather claim while I can instead of not doing so, because some of us know that lynching a town member is actually CONTRARY to the town's goal of lynching the mafia.

...remember how webadict was advocating shad0w's lynch independent of Shad0w's scum/town status? Hypocrite.

I'm glad you're trying to provoke a response. Now, tomorrow, if you don't give me a detailed response about why you couldn't help out before, used faulty logic to vote for me, and are active lurking, I will get you modkilled.

Yeah, it'll kill me, but it'll be oh so worth it to make you gone.

Old webadict sum: http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=44270.msg855250#msg855250

Web gets up to 5votes, aaand...Neruz is the one who unvoted, causing the unbandwagon...and flipped town. meh.

Wow...

What was that?

Also, Rashilul is very scummy.

AND SCREW YOU ORG FOR BEING A HUGE ROBOT! Why on EARTH did you block me?

Webadict continues to not supply much in way of reasons.

Seriously guys.  Stop the nonscum lynching.  Killing Web because's he's a prick.  Killing Shadow because he writes in 3 words for one day.  Killing Eduren even though a nolynch will mean he frys (when we get close to lylo, it'll be another matter).

Interesting.

Hmm...

Along with Org...

Mr.Person is probable scum.
So is...

ExKirby.

And... Rashilul or Redwarrior0.

He misses that Exkirby is dead. Unlike webadict...

I can't find anyone anymore...

I still believe dakarian is scum, too, though no real feeling is holding...

Very unlike webadict...

Also, Neruz was town.  I was right you stupid people.

Then why did you hammer him if you thought he was town?

The game was stalling and I wanted a fresh start against you/scum.

We coulda at least tried to lynch someone else, no?

...OK tht sounds quite strange. Like...oh, Toony and Web scum.

They keep their old role
They cannot repeat the REPLACE action
They gain his one-shot revive if it was not used by Leafsnail originally.

Man, screw you.

I'm calling for a Massclaim, because this is ridiculous.

day...3...massclaim...wtf. seriously, THIS IS NOT TOWN-WEBADICT. He's smarter than that. (He does catch a few coming out-Sirbayer and Cheeetar.)

4/14 are mafia.  (or should be =P)
28.5% are mafia.

4/14
4/12 - Mislynch then night-kill.
4/10 - Mslynch then night-kill.
4/8 - Mislynch then night-kill.
4/6 - Mslynch then night-kill.
4/4 - Lose.

Standarly, we can mislynch four times before losing.  With a night-kill.  We should not have a mass-claim now.  No no no.

Gotta go!

You'd think so, but we don't really KNOW, now do we? Seeing as how Leafsnail had a Revive, who knows what else we really have? Obviously, there's a balance, so whichever roles aren't balanced are obviously fake.

I think I'd be able to tell which ones aren't balanced. It's sorta like a puzzle. I'd rather everyone knew everything than the mafia knew a little more than us.

Aaand doesn't call Toony on the miscount EITHER. It's like...a mafia conspiracy to make us feel safe!

I don't think it's inconsistent. Saying something is something does not make something something.

It is. There's a great big GLARING hole in his argument the size of Texas. The fact no one sees it is because no one's paying attention.

I want him to keep talking, because he'll just keep slipping up.

And he doesn't point it out.

But, dakarian is afraid that I'll catch him, so he's hiding behind his little excuse. There's no point in hiding behind power roles because, get this, we can win WITHOUT THEM! The point of the game is to LYNCH the Mafia, not out-PR them.

dakarian is ridiculously suspicious, and I'm glad there's enough people not here to not actually debate it.

So...throw all the PRs in the wastebin and we'll kill the mafia! wait. The town's gone! Also, note the dislike of discourse. Hiding something.

As for Mephansteras? He's been playing a similar game, so if he's mafia, he started out as such. It makes sense, since he "confirmed" dakarian as a town (Which could be fooled using Leafsnail's power?) He'd also be able to make the decisive conversion of the best player in which to convert. He's also putting up a good front to lynch himself. Perhaps we should take it?

This...is interesting. Lynch chain. However, it is this post that seems to be when web got his computer back, which means his (postlength)meta flipped back to normal-ish. Behaviour contained is still strange and...skulky? He is loath to reveal his reasons.

I also forgot to mention a potential target for conversion, so radical that I only noticed it AFTER I posted. That would be ToonyMan. This clear lunatic would actually help them by being ridiculously clever at avoiding scumtells, by simply having very few of them and being a crazy person. He'd also throw around so much crap, you'd have to remove his presence to get a good few of what everyone else is saying. He's also crafty.

And I just remembered SHAD0Wdump is playing and he's yet to help after his whole three word things was taken away.

He points...to within his little group again, and at his pet target who is UP FOR REPLACEMENT. Webadict doesn't normally miss details like that.

Ah, I see, I misread it the first time.

Yes, web could easily be scum. But is that your major argument for voting for him?

Aaaaahhh, what is that aroma I smell?

Vector, can't you smell it too? I'm sure it's major WIFOM. Look, it's one thing for SirBayer to do it (I feel icky for using FoS), but when you do this active lurk/WIFOM/passive thing, it's not cool at all, Mephansteras.

So, you're going to get in here and start playing. Kk? Thx.

Org, why didn't you roleblock yesterday?

Throwing fingers.

Well, Sir Bayer was very Wifomish. Like crazy. Although, it was probably just being a newb.

And web, didnt I say why I didnt roleblock?

No

Missing details.

Yeah... let's all mass on that there CobaltKobold. He be the scum o' the Irish town.

Perhaps tomorrow dakarian... Perhaps tomorrow...

Low-argument vote. Again. Also, it looks to be fourthvote to top off the case.

CobaltKobold [4]: Cheeetar, Vector, Mr.Person, Webadict

Yes... this is all cool and all, but some of these are really grasping at straws, just like a few of your arguments against the others too. But, if you turn up town, which you likely won't, I'll give you a proper analysis. K?

Also, anything you want to CLAIM before we lynch you? (I'm sure you haven't quite come up with your fakeclaim and that's why you haven't.)

Oh, and yeah dakarian IS suspicious. We've already established that before your long posts. Thanks for obviousness.

[Mephansteras]

Basically, he had the time to post that he doesn't think someone is suspicious and that he should not vote someone who he knows is town, which is basically saying he's blatantly lurking. Look elsewhere to prove it: He's got time for Paranormal, but not here, not even a few minutes.

Yes, as a matter of fact. If I have, say, 5 minutes that's plenty of time to grab a few votes from Wizard Duel or answer a question about Paranormal. It is not enough time to go through pages and pages of this thread to decide whether or not to vote for someone close to being hammered. Last time I scanned CobaltKobold he was sort of middling on my list, enough that I wanted to go back and read a bunch of stuff before deciding to vote him when he was close to being hammered.

I can't do that in 5 or even 10 minutes, it takes at least a half hour to do any decent digging in this game. Hours if I want to do a full scan and wade back through the previous few days. Work has been busy and I've had to make time to be active in this.

So, no, I haven't been as active as I'd like. But that's not really an excuse to go around voting for people without thinking about it. If I was willing to just randomly hop on bandwagons without any decent explanations it'd be a lot easier to play, but that wouldn't exactly be helpful either.

[SirBayer]

Makes sense.

More later when not doing skewls. Or at least when doing subjects during which I can pretend to be being productive instead of playing Mafia online.

[webadict]

Basically, he had the time to post that he doesn't think someone is suspicious and that he should not vote someone who he knows is town, which is basically saying he's blatantly lurking. Look elsewhere to prove it: He's got time for Paranormal, but not here, not even a few minutes.

Yes, as a matter of fact. If I have, say, 5 minutes that's plenty of time to grab a few votes from Wizard Duel or answer a question about Paranormal. It is not enough time to go through pages and pages of this thread to decide whether or not to vote for someone close to being hammered. Last time I scanned CobaltKobold he was sort of middling on my list, enough that I wanted to go back and read a bunch of stuff before deciding to vote him when he was close to being hammered.

I can't do that in 5 or even 10 minutes, it takes at least a half hour to do any decent digging in this game. Hours if I want to do a full scan and wade back through the previous few days. Work has been busy and I've had to make time to be active in this.

So, no, I haven't been as active as I'd like. But that's not really an excuse to go around voting for people without thinking about it. If I was willing to just randomly hop on bandwagons without any decent explanations it'd be a lot easier to play, but that wouldn't exactly be helpful either.

Close to hammer? You mean having 4 votes out of the necessary 8? Seems you made up your mind quickly enough though, so why so defensive?

You're not really being all that helpful now anyhow. You're still lurking and you've managed to read enough to know that I am attacking you, but not enough to have an inkling of suspicion on others.

[CobaltKobold]

I'm addressing accusations against me, and hunting scum. Not much beyond that I can do to prove I'm town. Besides, I'm at L-2 6/8. Your trying to persuade meph otherwise is either trying to get an oblivious hammer or being stupid- which doesn't fit your meta either way.

Anyway, I have been here for elevenish hours. Lunch is required, so I'll be gone for...an hour? Something like.

[webadict]

I'm addressing accusations against me, and hunting scum. Not much beyond that I can do to prove I'm town. Besides, I'm at L-2 6/8. Your trying to persuade meph otherwise is either trying to get an oblivious hammer or being stupid- which doesn't fit your meta either way.

Anyway, I have been here for elevenish hours. Lunch is required, so I'll be gone for...an hour? Something like.

Well... considering he's already voting you... I don't have to persuade him too much, now do I?

[Mr.Person]

Been trying to catch up with this, but let me just ask

Mr. Person: What happened to me being too dangerous to let live?

I think we're capable of finding scum before lylo, I decided it might be best to go out and find scum instead of just trying to get a lynch going on you "just in case". It's not a bad plan or anything, but it's also not terribly productive if everyone jumps on the wagon and doesn't say anything else.

[dakarian]

flimsy argument-attributable to rvs.

Feels bloodthirsty (lynch anyone) in rvs. (supported later: see the hopping on bandwagons with Meph.)

Your first argument is about RVS when I threw a randomvote + emotional attack?!

This is...VERY not Dakarian.

On what grounds?  Are you saying I've never poked at anyone as town?  I remember being harsh to Pandarsenic in Toon Mafia 5.  I was town then.

Staged fight?

WIFOM, noted.

Stagedfight.

They fight a while with much sound and fury but little content on either side...both lack explanations for much, calling each other on it hypocritically...
Dakarian used a smiley? I don't remember dakarian using smilies.

It's just leaving RVS.  There's not exactly a ton of content to go on. 

Meanwhile, you're calling me out for smiles?  Reaching.  Simply reaching.

X4!

1. People were grumbling over the nature of Day 1.  I've said in many cases that I feel a strong day 1 is vital to a town win.  Thus when they grumbled I told them my feelings on the matter. I've done this before, and I'll do it again.

2. I'm the host of Beginner's Mafia.  Because of it, I've grown used to watching over newness or explaining issues.  I'll quickly do it in other games when I see it. 

3. That blasted thing took me the entire day to work over and it was for only half of day 3. 


As for the other thing.. you did that "quote without an explanation" thing again.  Explain how the Emotional Apealls x4 and the quotes just before "undakarian" compare with each other.  Also explain how I am SUPPOSED to act?

...and defend/buddy Webadict!?

Meta arguing.  angry-web is a null tell and aggressiveness is NOT a scumtell. 

...you're doing all these things that you accused Exkirby of before you killed him. Hypocrite.

Leafsnail is confirmed scum.  When you find someone CONFIRMED, you go after those they associate themselves with.

Webadict is someone YOU believe is scum.  You're biggest argument so far against me is my interaction with him.  There's a big difference with that. Don't make a scumteam before you actually have a confirmed scum to link it with. 

Dakarian...missing points, TWICE (Vector also posted the transfer rule) then pointing out how this means "don't kill webadict now" He'll continue to do this later, ignoring things I say.

Elaborate on this one.

Dakarian states the number of scum differently to what everyone expects. Normally I'd let this slide, but...he has done it a few times.

While you're at it, elaborate on this one too.

Or, Giving the scum two mislynches in one day.

WIFOM

Wow, another hypocrisy?

Asking for rolenames right into RVS isn't quite the same as asking for a claim just before the person dies.  It's normal to ask for a claim when the person is at L-1.  Since I had a daykill, Exkirby was, effectively, at that point.  It's NOT normal to start going on about roles at the very start of day 1.

I was moderately bothered by your rush ob. fuck, j key again.

Explain.

Wouldn't it be funny if ExKirby died for no reason whatsoever?

Undakarian...

You didn't notice the big "ExKirby dies for no reason whatsover!" text soon after?  That's HOW my kill worked.  Write a post saying nothing but that and the person gets vigged.

Oh. He also missed the giant robot roleblock. Missing details like this is seriously undakarian.

I missed it?  What was I supposed to do about it specifically that town-dakarian would've done?

Well this is mighty strange. As is that.

You point to two quotes and that's all you say.. it's "strange".  No reason why it's strange.  No argument.. just "look at this".

I'm not the only person who thinks this cat is off.

Some webadict-highlighted hypocrisy. I'll gladly do more than spend an entire postseries defending myself!

Now I see a problem with your attack.  When I remove the large quotes all I get is this to speak about.  Makes it tricky to defend when you just put a quote, say "this is wrong" and walk away. 

AKA: explain that one too.

D3. Dakarian decides Mr.Person attacking him merits a scan. Feels reactionary.

Finally something from you directly.  I poked at him in Day 2, he responded very defensively, I attacked him for it.  Day 3 he comes in full swinging with major accusations and little support behind them.  When I poke at the argument it turns out to be weak, unsupported, and full of misinformation.  Combined with Day 2 it made it look like more than a townie making a scumhunt.  It looked desperate.  Thus I turned full power on him.

Note how he doesn't say "you are scum," he says "You're a good target." Small, but there.

That was when I was still pressuring him and arguing with him. 

When I was done and formally was ready to see him lynched, I referred to him as scum:

It's looking like you're acting funny with Toony, Meph, Web. All your votes seem to be in each other, except when there's an easy lynch target that someone else has set up...or someone is attacking you (Mr. Person, in your case)

'in each other'?

Explain this one.  Are you saying that I've only been after easy targets?

oneshot powers should not be saved until lylo. Seriously. scum.

Error inconsistent

Web wanted everyone to MC with him scanning someone afterwards.  I spoke against it and said if he wants to pull that he should wait.

He's still better off using it on someone without a MC, say someone who's already claimed a role

This is true, but...you're doing a poor job of it because of what you are.

grounds?  You haven't shown how I haven't been hunting well.

Hypocrisy. Again.

then a big fight with Mr. Person, which comes out meh. He scores a few points against you I won't bother quoting, but mainly hypocrisy.

You won't explain how it's hypocritical?

AAaand...thirdvotes. I see where you're coming from with the "When you look at scum, they tend to be there"- it's right here!

Anyway. That's my case on dakarian.

So your case is:

Emotional appeals...to the entire town (when typically it's to individual people to defend yourself or to buddy with them)

Your link between me and Web, which means you've created a fully decked out scumteam between him and me.

Me being 'undakarian'...when you haven't demonstrated what 'dakarian' is.

Me being hypocritical...when half of the comparisons aren't as comparable as you might think, and the other have involves reasons you don't care to explain.

And a batch of other 'scummy' actions that you fail to explain.


Btw, next time you do a massive batch of quote insanity don't stick your text right inside the code?  You know how hard and annoying it was to pull your words from the quote text?  White space!

[ToonyMan]

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Filed under "fucking strange"

Funny how Mr.Person uses the arguments of the person he's voting for to switch to the person they're voting for despite hating the scum that gave him the reasons.

Zai [10]: Mr.Person, ToonyMan, Rashilul, SHAD0Wdump, Dakarian, SirBayer, CobaltKobold, Neruz, Mephansteras, Cheeetar

Argh, had to assemble this one myself.
Neruz [9]: Cheeetar, CobaltKobold, Apostolic Nihilist, RedWarrior0, Vector, Rashilul, Dakarian, SHAD0Wdump, Toonyman

CobaltKobold [7]: Cheeetar, Vector, Mr.Person, Webadict, Mephansteras, Dakarian, SirBayer

Conclusions:

Vote Dakarian. Appeals to emotion (5), faulty arguments, failed reasoning, hypocrisy (5+? wasn't counting there), and a cherry of a couple thirdvotes...and, something I didn't notice, is, he's pointing out that "no, I'm really the thirdvote" for some wifom!
Toonyman. Toony and is doing a lot of "btw I'm town" and toony's doing a lot of unsupported arguments. Also hammering the lynch when he thought Neruz was town.
WebadictWebadict's doing a lot of mad-lib-attacks (I'm not specifying, find it yourself) allowing people to fill in his attacks, and missing a lot of details, which is not in townweb file. Also, his earlier posts are metaunlike townweb-possibly due to the computer lack thing, as it has fixed, which is one reason he's down here. Has a patent disregard for townlife.
Mephansteras - Lurky, wifom in his selfmeta, and a fair amount of "btw I'm town" things.
Sirbayer is being scummy in a couple ways, but seems more to horse around than anything else.
Rashilul is being a bloody lurker and doing some stupid shit, but...too lurky to read well.

This makes me think of a situation I haven't thought of before, if Webadict and Dakarian were scum, and it makes sense so.

Scumlist:
dakarian
Webadict
Meph
SirBayer

I really really really really like that list.  Just swap out always scum eduren(that's his towntell) and plop in webadict!  There you go.  The only problem I have is....Cheeetar should be on that list.  So!


Scumlist:
dakarian
Cheeetar
Meph
Webadict
SirBayer


His attack on me was pretty uncanny.

Also so yeah, I only said Webadict is scum because I forgot the fact THAT BOTH COULD BE.  :-D  Yah.

[webadict]

Take SirBayer off that list.

[CobaltKobold]

You mangled the quotes.

Be more specific, please.

Confused?  That's a scumtell btw.  I showed it to you just a few posts ago.

Y'know, it'd be nice if people would READ these.

I noted several places where you have missed points. . .And, your asking would be another such!  missed the giant robot roleblock, for one to pull from my wall.

Meanwhile, you're calling me out for smiles?  Reaching.  Simply reaching.

If I were calling two smilies an A2E, then it would be reaching. As is, it's a component of my meta-argument.

I remember being harsh to Pandarsenic in Toon Mafia 5.  I was town then.

Selfmeta=null

As for the other thing.. you did that "quote without an explanation" thing again.  Explain how the Emotional Apealls x4 and the quotes just before "undakarian" compare with each other.

One, you point out how lots of time and posts is a good thing, the other, you're complaining about it. Feels hypocritical.

Also explain how I am SUPPOSED to act?

Logically, with well-structured, well-researched arguments, and not appealing to emotion.

Dakarian states the number of scum differently to what everyone expects. Normally I'd let this slide, but...he has done it a few times.

I was writing this- apparently the other one is actually toonyman. 
 

 

Or, Giving the scum two mislynches in one day.

WIFOM

That is in no way I can discern wifom. seriously, you're better than that with mafia terms. Another metapoint. the fact is, it was a mislynch. Another fact is, you did not do it in any particular way that made it like "another lynch". You decided on your own to go after exkirby and other people (MrPerson at least, may have been a few others) more or less said "what the hell dakarian" when you told him to claim or die.

Asking for rolenames right into RVS isn't quite the same as asking for a claim just before the person dies.  It's normal to ask for a claim when the person is at L-1.  Since I had a daykill, Exkirby was, effectively, at that point.  It's NOT normal to start going on about roles at the very start of day 1.

See above: the town did not have the consensus you are trying to whip up out of thin air. Ergo, he was not "effectively at L-1". He was effectively at your gunpoint, whose control you were NOT really giving to the town. If you wanted to "give the town an extra lynch" you'd wait until sometime like...oh...now, and, instead of hammering, use the daykill. What you did was highly irregular and suspect.

    I was moderately bothered by your rush ob. fuck, j key again.

Explain.

See above- you definitely did not have eight others with you on this.

        Wouldn't it be funny if ExKirby died for no reason whatsoever?

 
  Undakarian...

You didn't notice the big "ExKirby dies for no reason whatsover!" text soon after?  That's HOW my kill worked.  Write a post saying nothing but that and the person gets vigged.

I'll buy that.

    I'm not the only person who thinks this cat is off.

    Some webadict-highlighted hypocrisy. I'll gladly do more than spend an entire postseries defending myself!

Now I see a problem with your attack.  When I remove the large quotes all I get is this to speak about.  Makes it tricky to defend when you just put a quote, say "this is wrong" and walk away.

AKA: explain that one too.

You make a post saying "If you're going to attack me, do something other than spend the entire post defending yourself." -while attacking someone, the entire post, defending yourself. See yet?

Emotional appeals...to the entire town (when typically it's to individual people to defend yourself or to buddy with them)

Why appeal to one if you can garner sympathy from all? A2E is still scummy.

Your link between me and Web, which means you've created a fully decked out scumteam between him and me.

RNG's the breaks.

Me being 'undakarian'...when you haven't demonstrated what 'dakarian' is.

(town)Dakarian is actually good at this game. You're making errors left and right.

Me being hypocritical...when half of the comparisons aren't as comparable as you might think, and the other have involves reasons you don't care to explain.

A summary dismissal, does not need individual addressing, as I have addressed the points you are trying to wave off.

And a batch of other 'scummy' actions that you fail to explain.

They're your scummy actions-I shouldn't have to explain your actions. Explaining why they're scummy- that I'm doing. _{(Assuming people will grasp a concept when I display only necessary steps is a failing of mine sometimes.)}

[CobaltKobold]

Btw, next time you do a massive batch of quote insanity don't stick your text right inside the code?  You know how hard and annoying it was to pull your words from the quote text?  White space!

Did.