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Author Topic: uPick Mafia: Panda Edition Day6 - Mafia wins. Cheeetar calls Shenanigans.  (Read 299427 times)

dakarian

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You know, I might keep a running like like this from now on.  It's MUCH easier than a wide scan (though more of a short term "what are you doing now" than a "What have you done so far" )and makes for a good trace on who's attacking who, why, and what not.

SirBayer - nothing (after almost 100 pages of text)
Cheeetar - CobaltKobold (does not like his points against Vector)
Dakarian - Mr. Person (Little scumhunting, fake 'hammer', defensiveness, desperate offense)
SHAD0WDump - Being replaced
Vector - nothing*
Mr.Person - Dakarian (liar, lack of scumhunting, lack of reasons)
Mephansteras- SirBayer (no reason)
Eduren - Lurk
ToonyMan - Dakarian (he's a convert, picked by leafsnail)
webadict - SirBayer, Meph, (active lurk/WIFOM/passive thing) Org (lack of roleblocking)
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CobaltKobold - Sirbayer (scummy posts, claimed doc and lived and looks confused), Webadict (not explaining), Dakarian (passive), Rashilul (lurky/sheepy), Meph (no reason)
Rashilul - nothing
RedWarrior0 - lurk


Oh yes.. very nice.  Wish I had started this LONG ago.

@ Mod RedWarrior and Eduren needs a Prod I believe

@Vector.  Are you voting for Cobalt?  You seem hard pressed on him over it. (can't tell if you're just trying to knock him down or lynch him as scum).

@Cobalt, mind showing where SirBayer claimed Doc?  I missed that one.



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Ok, finally got a quiet day at work and just went through the last...80 pages or so to try to get a read on people.

Here is my list of where people are at, suspicion-wise and my (brief) reason for it.

SirBayer - Lynch All Liars - Fake claimed a role, as far as I can tell. @Webadict, were you blocked Night 3? SirBayer said you would be, but I didn't see a confirmation on that. Also, he's acted odd all game, and voted for people with little or no reason behind it.

CobaltKobold - Had very weak reasons for voting Zai day 1, looked a lot like scum trying for an easy lynch at the time. His behavior all game has been somewhat rotten. Lots of deflecting questions.
Rashilul - No real explanation on why he voted Zai, vote jumped a lot day 2 and voted for Neruz "to get to day 3". Either scum or really doesn't care who wins this game.
Mr.Person Could easily be lying about his target being switched on him without him knowing. His arguments have either been weak or completely ignored the actual actions of the person he is attacking to focus on select bits.

Cheeetar - Been very quiet, as always. Hammered Zai just to get the game moving.
Eduren - Blocked the lynch on webadict day 1, mostly quiet. Posts tend to be small with little content.
ToonyMan - All his guesses so far on people he is 100% sure are scum have been wrong (I'll forgive Zai, he was being deliberately scummy).
Vector - Didn't really show up until Day 2. Strong candidate for Leafsnail's conversion. Suddenly very aggressive.

Org - Is Org. His actions are pretty random as town or scum, so he's hard to read.
RedWarrior0 - Been very, very quiet. Very few posts, very little content.
SHAD0WDump - Acted strange all game, has asked for a replacement
webadict -  I can no longer read webadict, even when I'm Mod and know what's going on. He's making very odd decisions lately, but I just can't tell if he's town and being odd or scum and being odd.

Dakarian - My investigation Day 2 showed him as being Town
Mephansteras - I know I'm town
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Im not sure if that is a good thing.
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Rashilul and SirBayer......get in here!
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Unvote Dakarian (I think?), vote CobaltKobold, I find you incredibly suspicious at the moment, because the points you're making for Vector's lynch? I'm not seeing them. I don't see hypocrisy, you say you're excused from inconsistency and then call him out for being inconsistent and you say confusion is a scumtell.
Please highlight the inconsistency so I can address it rather than hiding your evidence from the town.
@Cobalt, mind showing where SirBayer claimed Doc?  I missed that one.
Okay, we really started. Dammit, Panda, make these things clearer ._.

I am, as promised, a Nuclear Rocket Surgeon.
I'm not sure I agree, Webby.

I apologize for not being more useful, but it's bedtime. One last thing before I go, I'll finish my roleclaim properly, though I've practically already done so. I'm a Nuclear Rocket Surgeon, so I can SCIENCE the crap out of people. If they're poisoned, they won't die; if they're attacked, they won't die. If, however, neither of those are true, they are roleblocked from radiation poisoning the next day. So it's a bit of a negative if I miss.

Also - Webby, what do you intend to accomplish with this mass claim? Do we really want people knowing who's capable of powerful things?
CobaltKobold  Webadict (not explaining)
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=44270.msg855250#msg855250
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@Vector.  Are you voting for Cobalt?  You seem hard pressed on him over it. (can't tell if you're just trying to knock him down or lynch him as scum).

I'm currently voting for Bayer, and am trying to figure out if CK is scum or just someone who happens to be making me angry.
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Just so you guys know I'm going to be gone the rest of the day and for Thanksgiving.
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Cobalt, I'm not sure we can mark the nameclaim as a claim of being a true doc.  I mean I'm an Evangelist-a cult name- but I'm no cult. 

Sir, however, claimed doc formally just this day. 

As such, I don't believe it's a scumtell that he's still alive.
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 I'll hunt down my chain of reasoning to another (ended) game.
Actuallly, Laetificus, I have thought about that. There was a webadict run "Bring Your Own Role" mafia, and I had a thought on that - it comes with a funny story, which I will relate.

I was doing a class for a very realistic shuttle simulation, and my teacher is describing how not-difficult something is, and he declared that it wasn't "nuclear rocket surgery". So, my role would be "Nuclear Rocket Surgeon." You'd have three separate probably one-shot abilities, or perhaps two one-shot and one permanent. First of all, you'd certainly be a doctor. You're a surgeon, after all. But secondly, you'd be able to become ascetic AND non-nightkillable, by jumping in your rocket and flying into space for a turn. Finally, there's the Nuclear, which would be covered by the ability to one-shot irradiate one player a turn, like a Poisoner.
I agree:I were running a BYOR then a Surgeon would be quite likely to get doctor. But now we're out in spec-land. So I'll agree that it can't be anything yet.
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Re: Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Panda Edition Day2 - Kill Webadict Now Rule]
« Reply #1404 on: November 26, 2009, 12:51:37 pm »

Webadict: You can't scan tonight. I have an ability that will save lives - but if I miss, it roleblocks the next night. That night would be tonight. If you want to scan me, you'll have to wait until night after tonight. ._. I didn't do it on purpose. You'll be able to confirm that, I assume, especially if the flavor mentions radiation sickness.

No, SirBayer first talked about his ability on day 2, when he claimed he used an ability on Webadict that would protect him but role-block him the next night if he wasn't attacked. I just quoted the first mention of it, but he goes into more detail later. I'll see if I can find it.
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Re: Bring Your Own Role Mafia - Panda Edition Day2 - Kill Webadict Now Rule]
« Reply #1405 on: November 26, 2009, 12:54:10 pm »

1. I know I wasn't attacked last night because Panda told me in his PM that you were roleblocked tomorrow night from radiation sickness. He told me this specifically. You were not attacked in a way that I could defend from.

2. Yes, it's strange, but I assumed scum was going to try to knock you off. (If I attempt to protect you again tonight and you're not attacked, you'll die. So I don't think I'm going to do that.)

3. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Org: There's no point. He's accidentally roleblocked already. You should have known that...

There we go, just a bit later he goes into more detail.
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That's a little more like it.

Unvote

Vote SirBayer


The claim, combined with the confusion does paint him poorly.
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That's exactly what he wants!

Why is everyone I find suspicious voting him!  It's a trick, I know it.
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That's exactly what he wants!

Why is everyone I find suspicious voting him!  It's a trick, I know it.

So you find everybody who's currently voting SirBayer to be suspicious?
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Unvote Dakarian (I think?), vote CobaltKobold, I find you incredibly suspicious at the moment, because the points you're making for Vector's lynch? I'm not seeing them. I don't see hypocrisy, you say you're excused from inconsistency and then call him out for being inconsistent and you say confusion is a scumtell.
Please highlight the inconsistency so I can address it rather than hiding your evidence from the town.


I'm not 'hiding evidence from town'. You said yourself that your inconsistency was to be excused because you were tired, and later in the post called Vector out on inconsistency. All of it was a response to a single post by you I found scummy.
Part the first.

I find it difficult to believe that you are so much of a moron that you CANNOT EVEN REMEMBER WHAT YOU WERE SAYING TWO MINUTES AGO.  OR MAYBE YOU'RE BEING INCONSISTENT BECAUSE YOU'RE SCUM.
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See this right here? You, saying your inconsistency should be ignored.
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ERROR INCONSISTENT See this right here? You, saying he is being inconsistent.
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