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[Hectonkhyres]

I'm wondering, what is the minimal wage in USA ?

$7.25 (4.89 euros) per hour as of July 24th this year... though nobody ever really expects you to not starve at that rate. Minimum wage is something purely for highschool students who need a little extra spending money but have zero real bills to pay.

It particularly sucks because the minimum amount you need to survive even in the cheap parts of the country (like Nebraska, where I live) is about $30,000/year and it tends to be two or three times that in some of the worse parts of the coasts.

I swear... all the smart people went and retired to Belize.

[Rowanas]

Whooo!!! I'm of Belizian descent! Smart Americans come to my ancenstral grounds to live their lives

[PermanentInk]

I swear... all the smart people went and retired to Belize.

Hey, that's a great premise.  Someone should write an overlong and poorly-argued book/tirade about it.

[Neonivek]

Goodness the donation well is almost dry. There are more and more posts between donations now.

I wonder how effective this donat-o-thon was. Too bad it will take an extra month to find out.

[ToonyMan]

I'll be able to scrap something up for next month.  :-(

Got nothing November.  Funny that, I've only donated in Decembers so far.

[platypus]

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[Maggarg - Eater of chicke]

My pay has been delayed until December. And halved after that. I'll only be able to donate a tenner.

[Rowanas]

Wow, sounds like whoever you work for just bent you over and used you for unsavoury activities.

[Tylui]

Can you get tax writeoffs for donating to Bay 12 Games?

[Mephansteras]

No, I don't think so. It's not registered as a non-profit, I assume.

[Neonivek]

Especially since it is profit.

[Sevrun]

I'd offer up some cash if I thought it'd actually affect how quickly the game came fully into it's next incarnation.  But I don't believe it would, and my more imminent concern is to wonder if Toady isn't just gettin tired.  buckets of money don't help that at all.  Just sayin.

[Neonivek]

I'd offer up some cash if I thought it'd actually affect how quickly the game came fully into it's next incarnation.  But I don't believe it would, and my more imminent concern is to wonder if Toady isn't just gettin tired.  buckets of money don't help that at all.  Just sayin.

Well it is like the saying "Money doesn't buy happyness"

People also point out "Neither does poverty"

[Sevrun]

I'd offer up some cash if I thought it'd actually affect how quickly the game came fully into it's next incarnation.  But I don't believe it would, and my more imminent concern is to wonder if Toady isn't just gettin tired.  buckets of money don't help that at all.  Just sayin.

Well it is like the saying "Money doesn't buy happyness"

People also point out "Neither does poverty"

Of which I am brutally aware.  I drool every time I see the montly donation #s.  They're usually twice what I can pull in with this economy. :p

[PermanentInk]

I don't understand why you'd think he's getting tired.  Is there something about the massive visibility he provides into his process and progress that suggests this?  Because to me it sure looks like he's well on track to finish, and just has a month or so of well-defined tasks to work through until the release.  Whether that happens exactly by the end of the year or not is a pointless distinction.  Also, his attitude as we've seen at meetups and heard in interviews is positive and energetic: "I always want to work on the game," "I'm doing what I want to do," etc.  So, no need to invent worries when they stand contrary to all evidence.

And please remember that while Toady's donation numbers may place his income higher than some on this forum, he still makes way less than what he would earn in the marketplace for the skills he has (seriously, it's easily less than half, and that's ridiculously conservative).  Also remember those are raw numbers; he has to deal with taxes, lack of health insurance, business expenses, etc. out of that.  It's a larger chunk when you're self-employed.