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[Neonivek]

Changing definitions is a lovely thing the Government does. Which confuses people almost everytime.

Id like to give an example, but I think it could start a debate.

But what happened is that the government changed the definition of marriage and UNFORTUNATELY a lot of people thought that allowing same sex marriage meant that the government was going to force religious institutions to allow them. (At least I hope that wasn't the case). When it was only supposed to apply to Legal marriage, which was already as loose as possible (for example living together for a period of time is considered a marriage)

[Megaman]

Tropico:
L+
Gun control


C+
Election Reform
Animal Rights
Free Speech
Abortion Rights
Labor Laws
Gay Rights
Womans Rights
Immigration
Pollution
Nuclear Power
Tax Structure
Corporate Law
Civil Rights
Military Spending
Police Regulation

[Jonathan S. Fox]

Not MY Tropico!

[Megaman]

wait, so the LCS is... OMG THE LCS IS THE REVOLUTION!

[Servant Corps]

L+
Gun control

Only nominally though. Tropico lacks even the most basic background checks for military and police. Remember the Coup of '58 where the Presidente fied all the military officers during a coup, only to see anti-Presidente farmers more than willing to enlist?

C+
Tax Structure

C++. Tropico is one of the few countries in the world that boast 0% TAXATION. Instead, you have to pay for 'services', since everything is owned by the state. The state is obligiated to pay wages though, even as low as 1USD/Month.

Corporate Law

Since everything is owned by the state, it's only natural to conclude that corporations are illegal. L++.

Police Regulation

I agree with this. The Police are so unregulated that they could even arrest military officers during a military coup! Militarists everywhere should be horrified by this.

Immigration

The current Presidente has announced plans to make immigration basically L+. As he said, "We always need new slaves workers!"

[Megaman]

NOT IN MY DAMNED TROPICO.

[mainiac]

Wait, does tropico have laws?

[Aldaris]

Wait, does tropico have laws?

From what I heard, it has one: 'Do what I say, dammit!' from the perspective of the player.

[Jonathan S. Fox]

You can pass a few edicts, like "Clean up your litter or be shot," "Reduce factory pollution or be shot," "Receive a tax cut or be shot," and "I won't shoot you if you engage in same-sex marriage." There are also implicit criminal laws, which are enforced by police stations. Examples are from Tropico 3 but the general principle applies to the original as well, as the games are nearly identical, Tropico 3 is just more slick and polished.

[budapi]

Behold, Germany.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

L+
Death Penalty (wiki: "In an Elite Liberal society, the death penalty is forbidden, and even mass-murderers are considered people too.")*

L
Civil Rights (on paper)
Nuclear Power (official 20 year phase-out)
Religion (for most states, elsewhere M)
Women's Rights (on paper)

M
Abortion
Animal Research (would be L if the laws were enforced)
Drug Law
Gay Rights (L except for adoption laws)
Gun Control
Immigration (L+ for people from other Schengen members of course)
Labor Protections
Pollution (outsourced )
Taxes (still good social security means, but also unfair taxation)

C
Corporate Law
Election Reform (AFAIK the only EU member against EU anti-corruption policies)
Flag Burning (would be C+ if the laws were enforced)
Free Speech
Police Behavior (would be M if the laws were enforced)
Privacy Rights (would be L if the (data) privacy laws were enforced, instead we have new surveillance laws in effect)

C+
Joseph Ratzinger (just a random thing to place here)

*) The same people in power today were responsible for a bill allowing the armed forces to shoot down hijacked airliners. Luckily the constitutional court ruled this illegal.

[Rezan]

Nuclear Power (official 20 year phase-out)

Doesn't Germany get a lot of its power from France's nuclear reactors? If this is true, then I would say Germany is moderate at best.

[budapi]

Doesn't Germany get a lot of its power from France's nuclear reactors? If this is true, then I would say Germany is moderate at best.

Yes, but only in winter (when there is still higher export than import). In summer, energy is usually exported to France because less reactors are active due to too high ambient temperature (less cooling).

And it's only a law. If after the 20 years energy will not suffice the whole point is moot and Germany might roll back to C. Possibly earlier.

[overlordFT]

Ireland...


L+
Flag Burning
Death Penalty
Nuclear Power (No plants at all.)
Military Spending (Our army is utterly ceremonial)

L
Immigration
Gun Control
Police Regulation

M
Civil Rights

C
Free Speech
Labor Laws
Womans Rights
Pollution
Tax Structure
Corporate Law

C+
Election Reform
Animal Rights
Gay Rights
Abortion Rights (It's actually illegal for someone to even gain information about abortion by law.)
Drug laws (All drugs are prohibited to the highest degree and our prisons are facing srs overflooding due to floods of people in on cannibis charges.)


Ireland is sadly a conservative nightmare. We need you, LCs ;_;

[Aldaris]

Out of interest, how does the IRA compare the LCS?

[Leafsnail]

They're more a seperatist group than a left wing one...