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[Jackrabbit]

best thing about the third age mod?

a full army of mordor catapults also works as cave trolls once they're out of ammo, insta win army

That sounds kind of game breaking.

[KaelGotDwarves]

best thing about the third age mod?

a full army of mordor catapults also works as cave trolls once they're out of ammo, insta win army

That sounds kind of game breaking.

yeah, just a smidge.

Those or the elite trolls versus full stack of mumakil. HEAVEN OR HELL LETS ROCK.

[umiman]

Mumakil die very easily to trolls.

[Neruz]

Combat in war is about killing your enemy.  If he was fighting them one on one it means they were also samurai.  Even Miyamoto Musashi himself could barely handle 70 trained swordsmen alone (assuming that story is even true).    Anyway, this whole argument is meaningless since he wasn't fighting them one on one, he was fighting them all at once.  Most likely they were peasant soldiers so they would have just surrounded him and skewered him with their Yari.

Combat in a ritualised society is about winning, winning may or may not have anything to do with killing someone.

And yes, i know the one Samurai holding off an army on a bridge is literally wrong, that's why i said technically right; as in the overall effect of 'one samurai on a bridge delays an entire army' is somewhat correct for the period and location, even though the means through which he did so in the game is incorrect.

If you mean that it was technically correct behavior as laid down by the samurai code of ethics, I can agree.  If you still mean that it was technically realistic like you originally said, you're still wrong for all the reasons already stated.  People who conquer others don't let honor get in the way.  Maybe some minor lord who really didn't stand a chance in the scheme of things would do it, but power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.  Anyone with a large army and somewhere he needed to be would not stop to risk his samurai challenging a lone idiot to single combat.

Seriously dude, you're just betraying your ignorance of Feudal Japan here.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Seriously dude, you're just betraying your ignorance of Feudal Japan here.

Look, you wanna give me any solid evidence that Sengoku Era Japan was any different than any other period of constant warfare in history I'll think about believing you, but as it stands I'm going to have to go with what I've got.

[Neruz]

Seriously dude, you're just betraying your ignorance of Feudal Japan here.

Look, you wanna give me any solid evidence that Sengoku Era Japan was any different than any other period of constant warfare in history I'll think about believing you, but as it stands I'm going to have to go with what I've got.

What?

You're trying to claim warfare throughout the ages, all over the planet, has always been the same?

I have no idea how to respond to that, you have knocked the words out of me.

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

No, I'm stating that throughout any recorded period of constant warefare, people didn't let honor get in the way of winning, or if they did they lost quickly and ended up being insignificant.

[Neruz]

Which history books have you been reading?

[Ioric Kittencuddler]

Which history books have you been reading?

Well if you need a name, Traditions and Encounters, volumes one and two.  What about you?  And why is it important?

[Neruz]

Because your absolute determination that people neer let honour get in the way of victory clashes violently with the history i have learned and been taught; especially history in Japan and, to a lesser degree, the rest of Asia, where combat and life in general became heavily ritualised to the point of rediculousness.

Although even then there were people in feudal era Japan who broke tradition to 'win' so to speak; they were referred to as Ninja.

[Jackrabbit]

Although even then there were people in feudal era Japan who broke tradition to 'win' so to speak; they were referred to as Ninja.

And they were only called in when someone ruined a tea ceremony.

[Neruz]

Although even then there were people in feudal era Japan who broke tradition to 'win' so to speak; they were referred to as Ninja.

And they were only called in when someone ruined a tea ceremony.

Hehehe

[DJ]

What?

You're trying to claim warfare throughout the ages, all over the planet, has always been the same?

I have no idea how to respond to that, you have knocked the words out of me.

War. War never changes.

[Heron TSG]

War. War never changes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnbKOboT5wQ
War has Changed.

[Jreengus]

I just got an interesting offer from the Armenians.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Fat lot of good this offer did them, I crushed them under my mercenary army, unfortunately even with me buying up every mercenary I could get this war only exacerbated my excessive gold problem.

You'd think that there would be some kind of preset option that does that. Strange that they didn't include it and forced the poor AI to word its request a it did.

The Seleucids get a ridiculously strong start, 2 wonders and a third nearby in rebel hands then their cities make ridiculous amounts of gold immediately. I couldn't stop the ridiculous flow of money even with my capital churning out elephants.