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Author Topic: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: End - Snowy white.  (Read 52055 times)

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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #255 on: November 19, 2009, 10:01:24 am »

Current Vote Count:
Webadict[1]: Leafsnail
Vector[1]: Org
Org[1]: Eduren
Pandarsenic[1]: SirBayer
SirBayer[2]: Webadict, Pandarsenic

Not Voting: Vector

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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #256 on: November 19, 2009, 10:45:52 am »

You're really pushy... If I were a Vigilante, I'd kill you...

What, and you're not?

Bleh.  If you're telling me I'm being too aggravating, I'll tone it down.  It's hard to find the fine line between "aggressive" and "asshole."
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #257 on: November 19, 2009, 11:44:06 am »

Quote from: SirBayer
Leafsnail points out Org’s bandwagoning. Is trying to be helpful. Does 3rd-vote. Brings up an interesting point - claimed cop first day, never got to kill. Webby has done the same thing... is he serious? He wasn’t killed last night. I wonder if he was protected. I don’t feel like Leaf is scum.
Erm... no, I didn't claim cop first day... and neither did webadict... seriously, what are you talking about?  Buddying also noted.

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I wish I was scum, then I could use you as an easy lynch or a town-lynching slave.
Pandarsenic, this looks rather a lot like a freudian slip.  How do you know he's town?

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I'm currently thinking Leafsnail is scum; he was awfully dissatisfied with the lack of suspicion on him and I think he wants to be "Dismissed as town" early.
Not at all, Pandarsenic.  The problem I had with webadict was that he attacked me strongly on day one and became totally passive on day 2 in the hope that I'd forget about it.  Yes, I know that his initial attack was wrong, but for webadict to suddenly drop a lead like this seems very, very odd.  Also:
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Vector? Inactive? Why are you not saying I'm inactive? I'm much more inactive to be read.
Don't worry, webadict.   Someone's noticed.

Actually, Vector's buddying with Org is really starting to bother me too.  I see usual useless Org here, but Vector seems to be insisting that Org is town (how does he know?) in an attempt to buddy a weak player:
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That said, you're still playing town, Org >_>
After all, if scum can win over a weak townie, they effectively get an extra vote...

Also, Vector, what's up with this?
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No worries, I'll hammer you when it's hammertime.
If he's scum, YOU LYNCH HIM!  What, are you trying to avoid looking like you're bandwagoning?  Making sure noone will mind when you place the hammervote?  What are you doing?

In summary... SirBayer buddies and overreacts, webadict remains uncharacteristicly lurky and Vector buddies and tries to avoid looking scummy by bandwagonning SirBayer too early.  To be honest, I'm really not sure which of you are scum.  My vote stays on webadict, however - have any of you ever seen this kind of passivity, bandwagonning and general uselessness from him?
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #258 on: November 19, 2009, 12:09:42 pm »

Let's answer these in order...

First, no one claimed Cop, but I claimed Day Cop as a joke. Big whoop.

Second, if he were scum, he'd know who wasn't scum.

Third, that's a pretty terrible accusation. You could at least try to find more evidence as to why I'm scummy.

Fourth, Vector isn't buddying with anyone. He's stating an opinion. Get it right. And he wants to hammer so that SirBayer doesn't get insta-hammered.

Fifth, I'm pretty sure you're not even trying to try. If you want to FoS a bunch of people... Do it with style.
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« Reply #259 on: November 19, 2009, 12:21:17 pm »

Actually, Vector's buddying with Org is really starting to bother me too.  I see usual useless Org here, but Vector seems to be insisting that Org is town (how does he know?) in an attempt to buddy a weak player:
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That said, you're still playing town, Org >_>
After all, if scum can win over a weak townie, they effectively get an extra vote...

Also, Vector, what's up with this?
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No worries, I'll hammer you when it's hammertime.
If he's scum, YOU LYNCH HIM!  What, are you trying to avoid looking like you're bandwagoning?  Making sure noone will mind when you place the hammervote?  What are you doing?

Bleh, I really need to clean up my town game.

First off, I know from experience that Org is pretty much impossible to win over.  There is absolutely no point in trying to buddy with Org and get him to vote with you.  He may be a weak player, but he's not emotionally weak.  The thing is, I don't want to lose this game because we kept lynching people who were "obviously scummy" but happen to be town.

And no, I am not 100% certain that Org is town.  My opinion is rather solid, though, because he never plays like this as scum.  I have never seen Angry Webadict Org when Org was scum; I have never seen him make these little attacks (instead he tries to make sweeping accusations, and fails horribly); I do not see him accuse anyone of buddying with him.  This is, in my humble opinion, Org playing town.  As such I'm trying to get people not to lynch him, because I think he's town.  He was set up for a lynch D1, so I wanted to get my opinions on the table before another bandwagon formed.


If you think someone is scum, you lynch them.  In a game with hammers, you wait to see if that person has some sort of defense for their behavior before landing the telling vote.  I'm not trying to avoid looking like I'm bandwagoning--I honestly thought I had already voted for SirBayer.  Note the previous comment about SirBayer having two votes on him and jumping that high?  He had only Webadict's vote at the time.

If I were scum and wanted to get him lynched, I would have checked better to make sure there were actually two votes on him, rather than one (two is actually kind of jump-worthy when it means you're at L-1).  Only one vote + jumpiness would have been better for me.  But instead, I'm hoping he can explain why he's being a noob and turn around.  If he can't, then he's scum.  Hence the call for him to defend himself.  We need more discussion today.  We completely failed D1 because of a quick bandwagon on DirtyBirdy, so I am loath to just get things over with and lynch Bayer.

If he doesn't attempt to defend himself here, he's never going to learn how.  Might as well let him get something out of the game before killing him.

Why do you want me to quick-hammer him so badly, anyway?
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #260 on: November 19, 2009, 12:29:22 pm »

Let's answer these in order...

First, no one claimed Cop, but I claimed Day Cop as a joke. Big whoop.

Second, if he were scum, he'd know who wasn't scum.

Third, that's a pretty terrible accusation. You could at least try to find more evidence as to why I'm scummy.

Fourth, Vector isn't buddying with anyone. He's stating an opinion. Get it right. And he wants to hammer so that SirBayer doesn't get insta-hammered.

Fifth, I'm pretty sure you're not even trying to try. If you want to FoS a bunch of people... Do it with style.
And this is equally passive, webadict.  No anger, no attack, just a mild defense of yourself and a "no u" to every one of my points.

Vector, thanks.  That was quite helpful, and explains why you aren't voting SirBayer.  The way you did it made me feel you just wanted to make sure a bandwagon was building around him before committing yourself... meh.
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #261 on: November 19, 2009, 01:36:35 pm »

Quote from: SirBayer
Leafsnail points out Org’s bandwagoning. Is trying to be helpful. Does 3rd-vote. Brings up an interesting point - claimed cop first day, never got to kill. Webby has done the same thing... is he serious? He wasn’t killed last night. I wonder if he was protected. I don’t feel like Leaf is scum.

That was an honest mistake involving a hugenormous amount of idiocy.

Vector: Yes, thank you for clearing that up. For some reason I thought you were waiting for a convenient bandwagon. Which you still could have been, really, but that's besides the point.

I'm being a noob, as you put it, because I have become emotionally involved in the game, and getting slammed for a small error in townie-ship is... aggravating would be the word I would choose. (Yes, you crossed that line, in my opinion.) When aggravation happens, my mind leaves, and my mouth doesn't. (Keys, as the case may be.) So at that point, I really had no idea what I was saying, when it comes right down to it. I was babbling. I was being completely useless to everyone involved, no matter which side I am on. I intend to rectify that error as best as I can.

Leafsnail: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH JUST SAYING "NO U". >:I
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #262 on: November 19, 2009, 01:43:16 pm »

Vector: Yes, thank you for clearing that up. For some reason I thought you were waiting for a convenient bandwagon. Which you still could have been, really, but that's besides the point.

I'm being a noob, as you put it, because I have become emotionally involved in the game, and getting slammed for a small error in townie-ship is... aggravating would be the word I would choose. (Yes, you crossed that line, in my opinion.) When aggravation happens, my mind leaves, and my mouth doesn't. (Keys, as the case may be.) So at that point, I really had no idea what I was saying, when it comes right down to it. I was babbling. I was being completely useless to everyone involved, no matter which side I am on. I intend to rectify that error as best as I can.

Leafsnail: THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH JUST SAYING "NO U". >:I

All right, fair enough.  I attacked you like that because you did not display what seemed to be a "small slip in townieship" at all--rather, in Vector-vision you suddenly turned into a scumtell-pinata.  Meh.  It was probably an overreaction on my part.

That said, though, I no longer have any idea as to who is scum.  Uh... curses.


I am really hoping you are joking about your comment to Leafsnail.
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #263 on: November 19, 2009, 01:50:51 pm »

>:I <==== does this look serious?
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #264 on: November 19, 2009, 01:54:13 pm »

>:I <==== does this look serious?

Yes?

... It looks like a serious-face to me, anyway... oh, but I guess it's supposed to be amusingly false-serious.  A caricature.

Vector: -1 emoticon-comprehension.
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #265 on: November 19, 2009, 03:01:37 pm »

Poor man. You should level that stat.
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #266 on: November 19, 2009, 04:48:29 pm »

SirBayer. Do not use :I ever again.

Also, I do think Vector deserves attention
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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #267 on: November 19, 2009, 04:54:38 pm »

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Re: Not So Beginner Mafia 2: Day 2 Tenderized before freezing.
« Reply #268 on: November 19, 2009, 04:57:52 pm »

HI IM USELESS.
Lets do something productive, shall we.
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« Reply #269 on: November 19, 2009, 05:20:55 pm »

HI IM USELESS.
Lets do something productive, shall we.
Wow, you got burned by Org...
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