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[LegoLord]

Why are we saying clowns?

Because I made a clown mod and they want to confuse me and newcomers.

Seriously guys, it is confusing at times.

[atomfullerene]

Just wanted to drop in and say I'm proud of all the great ideas this thread has come up with.  Personally, I lean toward having the HFS be beatable, but with weird mental effects like those listed making just blocking it up again difficult to maintain over the long term...but certain spiritual methods somewhat effective at reducing the mental issues--just like soldiers can, with good preparation and some luck deal with the actual demons themselves.  I don't have a preference about recurrent attacks.

But that's just me.  Variety is good too. 

[SirHoneyBadger]

Since the gods locked them away, and since our dwarfs worship them, a clown might escape and kill your god.

[Morrigi]

Since the gods locked them away, and since our dwarfs worship them, a clown might escape and kill your god.

Ok, that would just be awesome.

[SirHoneyBadger]

Atleast it might give some additional motivation for not piercing the HFS in the first place, if the gods themselves might turn their collective backs to you.

[Malrin]

What if the HFS gets breached and then your god comes down.

A message appears, like "Foolish mortal, you've broken the seal and released unspeakable horrors on this world!" Then a divine god megabeast appears with an army of angels, and has an OMGWTFBBQ awesome godly battle.

But that would get REALLY annoying real quick.

[SirHoneyBadger]

What if the HFS got breached and all your alchohol turned to blood, and all your food rotted, and all your iron/steel rusted, and all the trees on the map died?

[jokermatt999]

I like the idea about trees dying. Well, at least all losing their leaves, like they do in winter. The other two would basically just screw you over randomly.

[Malrin]

What if the HFS got breached and all your alchohol turned to blood, and all your food rotted, and all your iron/steel rusted, and all the trees on the map died?

And then your dwarves become slaves to Armok, the god of blood!

(because like, he comes out of the HFS and enslaves your fortress as he ruins your supplies)

[SirHoneyBadger]

Screwing you over randomly is kind of the point. The gods have turned against you.

That means walking outside during a thunderstorm while wearing metal armour should be of greater concern than previously.

[jokuvaan]

just make weaponsmiths produce occasional demon infused weapons while under effects of HFS, being superior to normal weapons and not affecting dwarves at all... until.. one wielding them manages to die and gets resurrected as demonic champion with whatever weapons & artifacts he was wearing and proceeds to slaughter your fort while raising the dead to serve as his minions.

[LegoLord]

Screwing you over randomly is kind of the point.

Yes, because screwing the player is the absolute best example of good game design ever, no questions asked.

Or rather, just the opposite.  Seriously, Badger, why do you think the best game features are the ones would be the most annoying?

Also, you don't need to call them clowns.  As far as this thread has gotten I think it'd be hard not to know what HFS is.

[mendonca]

Playing Devil's Avocado Advocaat Advocate here, if there was a chance that opening the pits up MIGHT just screw you over (bearing in mind there would ideally be a spectrum of potential side-effects, and it would have to be in some creative way) then it could introduce some potential interesting decisions for the player?

I suppose you just have to make sure that is the other-side-of game design from a pop-up screen that says "YOU LOSE".

e.g. (bad, poorly thought out idea alert) If all the dead became aggressive zombies (including from the tombs), that would in 9 times out of 10 be a no-way-out situation, but that could be FUN?

[sproingie]

Huh, I always thought Adamantine was created by the Demons as Dwarf Bait.  That would be why all the veins point toward their caves.

I wonder what they used to get the elves?

edit: bah, I just realized I responded to the bottom of page 2 and not page 3.  I really ought to use more quotes.

[Servant Corps]

Screwing you over randomly is kind of the point.

Yes, because screwing the player is the absolute best example of good game design ever, no questions asked.

Or rather, just the opposite.  Seriously, Badger, why do you think the best game features are the ones would be the most annoying?

Also, you don't need to call them clowns.  As far as this thread has gotten I think it'd be hard not to know what HFS is.

It's the worst kept secret ever. The game would be better having demons, which you can refer to as, well, demons, and something else that you can only refer to as HFS.