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[Pandarsenic]

I jump on all forms of stupid. It's like, my job or something. AN, "stimulating discussion" is a good enough reason but a bad excuse for rolefishing, though we'll see which was which later, I'm sure. However, exposing 3rdparty roles can be a terrible idea at times. What if the role entailed, say, capturing a member of the scum team (Dopp Hunter from Paranormal)? I doubt we'd see anything so... direct or unoriginal, but the point remains. 3rdparty roles do not have alignments, but there are very few that are strictly pro-scum; thus, it's more beneficial to the scum than the town to know what he is.

[webadict]

I jump on all forms of stupid. It's like, my job or something. AN, "stimulating discussion" is a good enough reason but a bad excuse for rolefishing, though we'll see which was which later, I'm sure. However, exposing 3rdparty roles can be a terrible idea at times. What if the role entailed, say, capturing a member of the scum team (Dopp Hunter from Paranormal)? I doubt we'd see anything so... direct or unoriginal, but the point remains. 3rdparty roles do not have alignments, but there are very few that are strictly pro-scum; thus, it's more beneficial to the scum than the town to know what he is.

Bite me.

[Pandarsenic]

I jump on all forms of stupid. It's like, my job or something. AN, "stimulating discussion" is a good enough reason but a bad excuse for rolefishing, though we'll see which was which later, I'm sure. However, exposing 3rdparty roles can be a terrible idea at times. What if the role entailed, say, capturing a member of the scum team (Dopp Hunter from Paranormal)? I doubt we'd see anything so... direct or unoriginal, but the point remains. 3rdparty roles do not have alignments, but there are very few that are strictly pro-scum; thus, it's more beneficial to the scum than the town to know what he is.

Bite me.

*Bites you*

[webadict]

I jump on all forms of stupid. It's like, my job or something. AN, "stimulating discussion" is a good enough reason but a bad excuse for rolefishing, though we'll see which was which later, I'm sure. However, exposing 3rdparty roles can be a terrible idea at times. What if the role entailed, say, capturing a member of the scum team (Dopp Hunter from Paranormal)? I doubt we'd see anything so... direct or unoriginal, but the point remains. 3rdparty roles do not have alignments, but there are very few that are strictly pro-scum; thus, it's more beneficial to the scum than the town to know what he is.

Bite me.

*Bites you*

3rd Parties can be bad if they're SKs.

[Pandarsenic]

Well, no shit, Shercock.

But even the scum wants an SK gone. Anti-town isn't necessarily pro-Scum. Pay attention.

[webadict]

Well, no shit, Shercock.

But even the scum wants an SK gone. Anti-town isn't necessarily pro-Scum. Pay attention.

Duuuuuh, how about Survivor, numbskull?

Pro-scum, you stupid moron.

Oh, wait, is that all of the yellows? Maybe a cult or something? They aren't necessarily anti-scum, and tend to harm town more that anything, so don't assume idiotic things like that they're harmless.

[JanusTwoface]

First, I have the posting records of everyone since the game started.  Rysith, Vector, and Archangel have been lurking somewhat extensively followed by NUKE9.13 and Twiggie.

The useful vote count is in my opinion.  I'm sure you could come up with slightly different numbers, if you want to go for it.  But this is what I think.

Spoiler: Posting record (click to show/hide)

Person - Useful posts (IMO) / Total posts*
Rysith - 1/1
Vector - 1/1
Archangel - 1/2
NUKE9.13 - 3/3
Twiggie - 3/4
Eduren - 5/8
Dakarian§ - 5/9
Pandarsenic - 7/12
Apostolic Nihilist - 9/9
JanusTwoface - 10/13
Cheeetar - 10/14
Leafsnail - 12/14
Rashilul->webadict - 12/20

* Sorted by useful posts, tiebreaker is total posts
§ Ignored discussion of Rashilul's karma

(As of this post, might be some errors, but it's close)

These are some of my more specific thoughts from my notes as I've been going. Of all of these, Apostolic Nihilist, Pandarsenic, and Rashilul/webadict are the most suspicious.

Spoiler: Specific thoughts on scummitude (click to show/hide)

Apostolic Nihilist
- Lurking for some time
- Wants to lynch 3rd party (not totally bad)
- Rolefishing?
- Point out Twiggies lack of posting but not Vector, Rysith, Archangel, or Nuke

Archangel
- Asked a random lynch question that had just been asked and answered
- A virus excuse?

Dakarian
- WIFOM on something completely unrelated?

NUKE9.13
- In his second post he comments on Archangel not posting?

Pandarsenic
- Being abrasive (perhaps role? not all posts, so not sure)
- Jumping on Leafsnail then immediately off when called on it
- Bandwagoning
- Agressive again, throughout the whole game

Rashilul -> webadict
- Off topic posts (not the only one, better after switch to webadict)
- First to cast a second vote
- Replaced players have a slight scum tendency IMO
- Asked for summary
- Being very angry

Twiggie
- Posts aren't really helpful

Vector
- Called Rashilul on second vote (trying towards easy lynch?)

Given this, I'm going to vote Pandarsenic.  Right now, I'm willing to given Apostolic Nihilist the benifit of the doubt for the rolefishsing, I'm curious about Twiggie's role myself given his late join.

webadict also bugs me, both when he was Rashilul and after he changed, for different reasons.  If I had to choose two people for the scum team right now, I would choose Pandarsenic and webadict, which is kind of scary.

Finally, I realize that I've FoSed 8/13 players and that there is no way (I really hope) that they are all scum.  Still, they've each done something to deserve it, so it works out.

[ToonyMan]

Maybe there is???

...

Wait, no.

[Cheeetar]

Webadict-Pandarsenic fight is a staged fight by scum to bus each other. I unvote Archangel, and vote Webadict.

[JanusTwoface]

Webadict-Pandarsenic fight is a staged fight by scum to bus each other. I unvote Archangel, and vote Webadict.

I've claimed these a number of times and never actually seen one that was really happening.  If this is the first one, awesome. On the other hand, I'm pretty suspicious of webadict as well, so all's fair.

[Cheeetar]

I don't understand your post. Claimed what a number of times? What?

[webadict]

Webadict-Pandarsenic fight is a staged fight by scum to bus each other. I unvote Archangel, and vote Webadict.

Yep, that's why I'm totally voting him. I'm voting him to bus him, my scum partner. That's where my vote is, so that he will be lynched. My vote. To lynch him. The person I'm voting for. Because I'm voting him. With my vote. My vote.

My. Vote.

Vote.

VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE VOTE

YOU STUPID IDIOT!

Where is this bus? I'm pointing out he's stupid. I'm not voting him. I'm not trying to make him scummy. I'm saying he's a moron, but you just made him look like Stephan Hawking.

Holy crap. You make me ashamed to be in the same game as you. Please, go to the corner and maybe we'll let you come back when you learn to use big-boy logic. Okay? But for now, you can just try and think in your head before speaking a load of crap out loud.

OH WAIT I'M BUSSING YOU! OH NO! IT'S NOT MY FAULT THAT MY VOTE'S NOT ON YOU! STUPID BUSSES! HOW COULD I KEEP BUSSING PEOPLE!?!?!?

Yeah, whatever. Please be sure to lock yourself up somewhere so that you aren't a danger to others.

I don't understand your post. Claimed what a number of times? What?

He's saying to stop being an idiot in a nice way. Don't think you deserve it.

[Cheeetar]

Calm down, Webadict. It's a game.

[webadict]

Calm down, Webadict. It's a game.

Get smarter. If you're going to use fancy terms, at least know what they mean.

[Cheeetar]

Bus: To distance yourself from a scum partner by pretending to disagree with them or vote for them.

Or is bussing limited to voting for them for no apparent reason?