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[Grendus]

Yes and no. I remember the Dwarf Masters challenge I tried to do, the embark package was almost random (some logs, a few silk threads, random stones, etc). While it's a good way to measure how a player reacts to new things, it might be good idea for these challenges to be different.

[Jim Groovester]

If I could make a suggestion, I would suggest an easy one for starters.

Pwahaha! Easy!? What do I look like, a humanitarian?

Alright, the first challenge is up. Save and raws, and your objectives. Next time I'll just zip up a whole dwarf fortress folder.

I'm going to write up some text, list the objectives, get a picture of the embark up shortly, but in case you want to start now, go ahead. We'll make the deadline Monday, November 9th. That way, you'll have a little more than two weeks to get it done.

[Jim Groovester]

Alright, first post updated with the challenge. Which you will find mirrored right here.

Challenge One: Omenfreezes!

While the seven of you were pulling a wagon full of important supplies from Incesthate to Slaughtercruelty, your navigator lost his map. Relying on his intuition alone, he has led you in the direction he believes to be correct.

After three weeks of walking, you've noticed he has led you far off course.

He has led you straight into the Cremated Blizzard, a glacier perpetually covered in a whirlwind of ice and snow. Escaping from this place on foot will prove impossible. Thus, you must try to survive until the goblins at your home dark tower send a rescue party to recover your supplies. This may take upwards of one year.

As you look out across the glacier through the terrible snowstorm, you wonder how a rescue party will ever be able to find you. But first and foremost you must try to survive until then.

Through the snowstorm, you think you see pairs of glowing red dots staring back at you.

Omenfreezes save and raw files.

Omenfreezes is set on a terrifying glacier. You're also playing as goblins. This will be more difficult than your regular dwarven embarks. Your deadline for this map is Monday November 9th, which will give you roughly two weeks to complete this challenge.

These are your objectives for the map:

Spoiler: Objectives (click to show/hide)

CORE:
   1. Survive one year. (10 points)

POWER GOALS:
   1. Survive with all seven founding goblins alive. (5 points)
   2. Devise a source of infinite water. (3 Points)
   3. Defeat a siege. (3 points)
      a. Defeat two sieges. (2 points)
   4. Capture an animal. (3 points)

BLOATS:
   1. Find my gift to you. (1 points)
      a. Deal with the presents in my gift to you. (1 points)
         i. My presents are still wrapped. (2 points)
   2. Create an open-air pool of water. (1 points)
   3. Capture an invader and devise a clever method of torture. (1 points)
      a. Capture two invaders of different races and torture them simultaneously in a clever way. (1 point)
   4. Create an ice statue. (1 point)

Achievability of these goals is not necessarily guaranteed. Nor are the points necessarily balanced for difficulty.

Completion of these objectives will earn you points, and the player with the most points will "win".

I've included a text file containing some information I think will be useful to you in the folder containing the save and raws.

Best of luck!

NOTA BENE: The fourth power goal has been changed from its original "Capture and tame an animal." You may add [PET] to the Ice wolf entry in creature_standard.txt if you wish.

[barconis]

I'm not sure I've got the raws installed right; I renamed the old raws folder and replaced it with yours, but

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I've gotten caravans in summer and fall instead of sieges, when I've made it that long, although the constantly respawning ice wolves make anything outside problematic. Migrants have shown up, too, which I wasn't expecting.

Lots of restarts. Learning a lot, though.

[Ezk1]

Ok, looks interesting, im in^^ Lets see what happens.

[Grendus]

If I could make a suggestion, I would suggest an easy one for starters.

Pwahaha! Easy!? What do I look like, a humanitarian?

Alright, the first challenge is up. Save and raws, and your objectives. Next time I'll just zip up a whole dwarf fortress folder.

I'm going to write up some text, list the objectives, get a picture of the embark up shortly, but in case you want to start now, go ahead. We'll make the deadline Monday, November 9th. That way, you'll have a little more than two weeks to get it done.

With that embark? Hell yea you look like a humanitarian. I thought this was supposed to be hard.

Edit: I take it back. Water is the hard part, unless there's magma and you dig to it straight off (meaning you cheat to know where it is, the odds of randomly digging to it are low), no alcohol and no brewing make this pretty much impossible. The cave in method  produces pitiful amounts of water, 1/7 per tile.

[Ezk1]

I used cave in style today and it worked perfectly, 6/7 per tile. Proplem came, when wolf left area, and there wasent any food source

[Grendus]

Did you overhunt the wolves, or were they replaced with a blizzard man? Blizzard men aren't that bad, two or three marksgobs can take one down pretty easily if you set them to harass wild animals.

Usually when I cave in the floor I get 8 open space tiles with 1/7 water and 1 staircase with 4/7 water. Not enough for 7 thirsty gobs. If I could get 63 water it would last em a while, long enough to rig up a water generator.

[sava2004]

I think imma try this.

[Chicken Launcher]

I'll take a stab at this. Probably fail epically, but that's the fun of it!

[barconis]

I lost count of the number of restarts, probably a good dozen, but I did eventually last an entire year.

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My starting seven are intact, plus seven more fall arrivals. Well, mostly intact... one of the starting group got a mangled lung in the initial hunt, but he lived through it. Made him a bed and a bucket for water, he wouldn't lie down and rest. "Just a flesh wound", he'd wheeze while butchering an ice wolf or a donkey haunch from one of the unfortunate caravans. "Only hurts when it's cold out." This would've been even tougher if there were sieges and no caravans; one good group hunt (initial 4 wolves plus a group of 3 pretty soon after) set me up for a long time, to the point where I could get all the meat I needed from salvage, traps and trade. Which is good, because one wrong move above ground outside the perimeter, and suddenly wolves are chasing half the fortress around the map, and that never ends well.

Didn't get "infinite" water, but the pits from the initial collapse are still at 7/7 after a year, which surprised me because they ran dry in one of my earlier attempts. (I collapsed a second section, so I'd have a backup, but I ended up not needing it.)

I believe I found your present, or A present at least. It didn't come wrapped in the material I expected, and I didn't find it until very late winter so I didn't get a chance to use it for anything. I also dug up into it, but the goblin detailed to digging the downward stairway not only survived but got away to wall off the breach.

Save to be posted closer to the deadline. With all of the restarts, I'm not sure it should count, anyway; I did it to acquire the skills, not because I already had them.

[Grendus]

Could someone post how they got their cave ins to produce 7/7 water? Mine always produce 1/7 and some "open space" tiles.

[Jim Groovester]

barconis, can you tell me a little more about the caravans you were getting? Were they goblin caravans or were they human or dwarf caravans?

If they were human or dwarf caravans, that shouldn't be happening. They should be trying to kill you.

If they were goblin caravans, those shouldn't come until winter with the way I have the raws set up.

Grendus, I'm doing a quick run of the challenge. I see what your problem is. You need to drop your chunk of ice one more level, and then you'll get 7/7 water.

The moderator provideth!

[barconis]

barconis, can you tell me a little more about the caravans you were getting? Were they goblin caravans or were they human or dwarf caravans?

If they were human or dwarf caravans, that shouldn't be happening. They should be trying to kill you.

If they were goblin caravans, those shouldn't come until winter with the way I have the raws set up.

Grendus, I'm doing a quick run of the challenge. I see what your problem is. You need to drop your chunk of ice one more level, and then you'll get 7/7 water.

The moderator provideth!

They were goblin caravans, so that much was OK, but they arrived in summer, autumn, and winter. Only the winter one seemed to have much in the way of real goods beyond an anvil, though, or so it seemed by looking at what was left behind.

[Squirrelloid]

Ok, maybe there's something i'm not getting, but the goblins seem very finicky about where they'll dig down ramps, and when they're willing to use the ramps they actually dig.  Shift arrow once to the right of the wagon, designate 3 ramps vertically (centered on that point) - no digging.  Do the same *left* of the wagon, and they dig the ramps no problem.  WTH?

I've started on glaciers before and don't remember this being a problem.

Edit: restarted, now the opposite seems to be true.  !?!