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[CobaltKobold]

But RedWarrior0 is where I have my sights at the moment.

That shouldn't be stricken through.

[RedWarrior0]

Pardon? "Praising the Doctor/(insert role here)" is a scumtell*. He appears to be doing that. That is my justification. I'm sticking to it.

-snip-
pre-post: If the doctor's saying "doctor got lucky" then you press them on it, they claim, and you get off 'em. Softclaiming doctor then?

Part number 1: I am saying that it's the most logical. A beginner team would probably not skip a nightkill, and a competent IC like Pandar would probably try and stop them if they wanted to. That's the only reason you gave, and it's either that or the 1/7 chance of doctor guessing right, as there are no town roleblockers.

Part 2: There are problems with that reasoning. First, the town doesn't have much reason to believe a doctor claim. They might NL, but then the other problem shows up. If the claimed doctor is town-aligned, then the mafia will probably see him/her as a threat and kill him/her. Also, you seem to be asking if I'm softclaiming doctor: what benefit does it give to you?

Gnight.

[CobaltKobold]

you seem to be asking if I'm softclaiming doctor: what benefit does it give to you?

Gnight.

None. You claiming doctor would have a detrimental effect as, s you say, the mafia would then target you. So don't tell me/the town/the mafia.

[Org]

Org I have a bad feeling about you. How about answering my questions from yesterday?

Where is this?

[dakarian]

Also, dak, I'll be gone over the weekend, Friday afternoon to Sunday evening EST. Just letting you know.

Noted.  I don't take account of activity during the weekends anyway (a reason why no deadline hits the weekend) so no worries.

Current Vote Count:
SirBayer[1]: Vector
CobaltKobold[1]: RedWarrior0
Org[1]: Tehstefan
RedWarrior0[1]: CobaltKobold
Apostolic Nihilist[1]: SirBayer

Note Voting: Org, Apostolic Nihilist, Laetificus

Deadline: Friday, 6th 11am EST

[CobaltKobold]

I think I'd laugh/cry if it turned out to be me that the (alleged) doctor protected.
why is my boyfriend being such a ditz...

Also, there's actually some small value in a doctor claiming who they protected, as it might point to a townie. But it's less than the loss of the doctor that inevitably would follow, as the mafia might not kill and you're only slightly closer to finding any.

so web, what would you do to get out of this situation, since you're my IC supposedly? yes dakarian I'd be fine with you answering too. (Or e'en pandarsenic, as basically the only viable scum way of getting out is the town way- anything else just points to scumhood)

Your tenacity and use of logic are suggesting to me that you're town, redwarrior0. Annoying town, but town. unvote

I'd vote for SirBayer if he hadn't shown up.

[Apostolic Nihilist]

I don't see any need for an extension. Unvote.
Martyr Syndrome is as scummy as they come.
Town has no valid reason whatsoever for spreading WIFOM.

'Scuse me, but am I the only one picking up some bandwagoning here?

Apostolic Nihilist, what say you to that?

Also, Vector - my apologies on missing out on a little bit of time. Real Life interfered.

I am a little disappointed by the lack-of-night-kill. It would be nice if we could find out if we've got a specialist, and if so, what variety, but a role-claim seems useless at this point, really.

I wouldn't call it bandwagoning, per se. Martyr Syndrome claimed scum and so I voted for him, it's as simple as that. I was completely justified in voting for him. Mostly I wanted to make sure he couldn't pop in and vote Org to tie up the votes, though.

Laetificus, do you have any insight you'd like to share? Do you suppose we had a lucky doctor or novice scum?

[tehstefan]

On page eleven Org, I asked you both you and leafieus what reads you had on people. So, I would appreciate you answering that. Especially with your vote yesterday, which I still don't like at all.

[SirBayer]

I don't see any need for an extension. Unvote.
Martyr Syndrome is as scummy as they come.
Town has no valid reason whatsoever for spreading WIFOM.

'Scuse me, but am I the only one picking up some bandwagoning here?

Apostolic Nihilist, what say you to that?

Also, Vector - my apologies on missing out on a little bit of time. Real Life interfered.

I am a little disappointed by the lack-of-night-kill. It would be nice if we could find out if we've got a specialist, and if so, what variety, but a role-claim seems useless at this point, really.

I wouldn't call it bandwagoning, per se. Martyr Syndrome claimed scum and so I voted for him, it's as simple as that. I was completely justified in voting for him. Mostly I wanted to make sure he couldn't pop in and vote Org to tie up the votes, though.

Laetificus, do you have any insight you'd like to share? Do you suppose we had a lucky doctor or novice scum?

Okay, yeah, but you waited until it was clear he wasn't winning this time around.

And I suppose that means I should point an FoS at Org, who also appears to have bandwagoned... maybe.

[webadict]

I think I'd laugh/cry if it turned out to be me that the (alleged) doctor protected.
why is my boyfriend being such a ditz...

Also, there's actually some small value in a doctor claiming who they protected, as it might point to a townie. But it's less than the loss of the doctor that inevitably would follow, as the mafia might not kill and you're only slightly closer to finding any.

so web, what would you do to get out of this situation, since you're my IC supposedly? yes dakarian I'd be fine with you answering too. (Or e'en pandarsenic, as basically the only viable scum way of getting out is the town way- anything else just points to scumhood)

Your tenacity and use of logic are suggesting to me that you're town, redwarrior0. Annoying town, but town. unvote

I'd vote for SirBayer if he hadn't shown up.

One, the doctor shouldn't claim. That'll only lead to the doctor claiming, and, in case of some devilish plot, might lead to scum being "confirmed."

Two, to get out of this situation, you need to stop overreacting. That's your problem. Overreaction is a scumtell, especially for newbies. While OMGUS is generally a null tell on mafia, newbie mafia tend to OMGUS. So, instead of freaking out, start thinking logically.

[Laetificus]

On page eleven Org, I asked you both you and leafieus what reads you had on people. So, I would appreciate you answering that. Especially with your vote yesterday, which I still don't like at all.

Very well. Actually I looked back on page 11 and found no reference to my name being called except for...

Laetificus falls under this as well, he's not said much at all, but has answered questions at least, so null him.

Having a change of heart? Regardless, I'll give you some reads.

CobaltKobold and SirBayer rest on a fairly level plain for me. They're active players, and generally act as the eyes when events happen. Moreover, they're on less of the aggressive side, though are doing the best they can to get things going. If these guys were scum, it would be one of toughest facades (at least in the confines of this game) to keep up.

Vector and RedWarrior0 strike me as challengers. The kind of high-aggression, high-suspicion players that mafia needs. Suspicions over whether this is simply how they play, or if this is a persona adopted for scum purposes, and indeed, it'd be easy to pull while under the influence of NK abilities. I throw more suspicion at these guys, but remember to keep watching elsewhere.

Apostolic Nihilist is being more calm than I remember he should be, but I guess he hasn't found a big enough FoS to throw at any one person yet. He's a little on the quiet side recently, though occasionally comes in to toss around the current subject of concern a little more, so I'm not too sure what to pull of his current play-style.

Org, is uh... well, I can't pull any reads aside from "lurker".

tehstefan, though, seems to be pulling a lot from requests he posed from previous posts, especially from people he knows aren't extremely active. Also, care to elaborate on what you found so suspicious about the votes cast yesterday?

Also...

Laetificus, do you have any insight you'd like to share? Do you suppose we had a lucky doctor or novice scum?

The doctor would've had a 1 in 7 chance, which, though unlikely, isn't that much of a stretch. Novice scum might have been the reason, or a previously suspicious or time-pressed scum. Someone who would get some finger-points if they killed any threats, or at least they thought they would. Er, actually, that would probably fall under novice scum as well.

[CobaltKobold]

Two, to get out of this situation, you need to stop overreacting. That's your problem. Overreaction is a scumtell, especially for newbies. While OMGUS is generally a null tell on mafia, newbie mafia tend to OMGUS. So, instead of freaking out, start thinking logically.

Right...there's only one vote on me. No need to panic.

[tehstefan]

I was mainly addressing org in that post, laetifius, no change on your null tell as of yet. I merely asked you, to get you involved. As for what was so suspicious about org's vote?

He gave no real additional info, just saying "Oh, he must have a death wish." and hammered him. Sure it wouldn't have made much different, but why pop in for that short vote? That seems to me an awful lot like active lurking, which is a scumtell. Right now its not too bad, but I want to see if he continues, or picks up activity.

[SirBayer]

why do I keep posting at night

Annnyway, I don't see any of this as directly pertinent to me, so I'm just going to observe and wait for tells.

Oh, and Laetificius, don't forget that scum can, instead of offing direct threats, just kind of move suspicion off of them by pegging random people. Just because he didn't kill doesn't mean he's worried.

I'm not sure if that's helpful. I'm too tired to be sure. If it's not, pretend like I didn't say it.

[dakarian]

Current Vote Count:
SirBayer[1]: Vector
CobaltKobold[1]: RedWarrior0
Org[1]: Tehstefan
Laetificus:[1]Apostolic Nihilist
Apostolic Nihilist[1]: SirBayer
Tehstefan[1]: Laetificus

Note Voting: Org, CobaltKobold

Deadline: Friday, 6th 11am EST

1. A tie will result in a nolynch

2. Extensions may be requested.  4 requests will be requied to extend the deadline to Monday.