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[Randominality]

Alrighty, so, let's see if I understand this

1. You're shamelessly trying to promote your own project on another forum dedicated to the very works you're mimicking

2. The game has nothing to do with DF and yet here you are, on the DF forums, trying to promote "DF multiplayer" copying a DF style interface and world generation which is in no way affiliated with Toady

3. You didn't even think to PM Toady to ask if this would be ok


So instead of coming up with a concept of your own you decide to instead copy someone else's idea and attempt to advertise to their very userbase. To top it all of you have literally nothing to show for yourself in this topic except some very broad and very worrying ideas.

Why did you think this would be a good idea?

Well thats an over reaction if ever I saw one.

[Taal]

Hai Guise, I'm also working on Dwarf Fortress Multiplayer, a different one to Xams, but it's totally my own idea. In fact I'm working on like 100 multiplayer games ripping off ideas from indie games that rely on their game for their livelihood, some are really fun and complex (just like the games I'm stealing the ideas from) but those are my ideas too, and I can't show you proof of any of them. Sorry disregard that, Im not trying to rip somebody off for recognition/lawsuits/lack of originality/whatever, just unintentionally with ignorance, and I have tons of my own ideas, which I stole from other games Lol.

Yeah.. No seriously, I hope you do well, I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic..

[Spreggo]

I think he just miscommunicated. I'm going to with-hold judgement until we see some screen shots or something else that tangibly shows the game. The description really sounds like its going to be something drastically different with some of the same elements.
I doubt Toady is going to suffer by someone making ANOTHER rogue-like.

[Capntastic]

Hai Guise, I'm also working on Dwarf Fortress Multiplayer, a different one to Xams, but it's totally my own idea. In fact I'm working on like 100 multiplayer games ripping off ideas from indie games that rely on their game for their livelihood, some are really fun and complex (just like the games I'm stealing the ideas from) but those are my ideas too, and I can't show you proof of any of them. Sorry disregard that, Im not trying to rip somebody off for recognition/lawsuits/lack of originality/whatever, just unintentionally with ignorance, and I have tons of my own ideas, which I stole from other games Lol.

Yeah.. No seriously, I hope you do well, I'm sorry if I sounded sarcastic..

This sort of thing really isn't needed, is it?

[G-Flex]

No, it's not.

He didn't even say what his other games are like at all, so ripping into him for those is just ridiculous.

[SirPenguin]

@ Penguin

Man, relax. It's not like he's stealing Tarns code and selling it to the ruskies.

I don't get why you keep telling me to relax, duder. I'm not getting worked up over this. The whole situation is just so ridiculous I'm surprised anyone has to even explain it to him. What you're mistaking as an overreaction is simply me being as comprehensive as I can

Yep!

[quinnr]

Sounds good to me, but have you Emailed or Pmed toady?

[Yolan]

@ Penguin

Man, relax. It's not like he's stealing Tarns code and selling it to the ruskies.

I don't get why you keep telling me to relax, duder. I'm not getting worked up over this. The whole situation is just so ridiculous I'm surprised anyone has to even explain it to him. What you're mistaking as an overreaction is simply me being as comprehensive as I can

Yep!

I'm not sure how telling you to relax once turns into "keeps telling".

EDIT: Oh I see, I also said "Now now, lets be nice" on page one. Well, jeez dude, you are going on the offensive.

[SirPenguin]

@ Penguin

Man, relax. It's not like he's stealing Tarns code and selling it to the ruskies.

I don't get why you keep telling me to relax, duder. I'm not getting worked up over this. The whole situation is just so ridiculous I'm surprised anyone has to even explain it to him. What you're mistaking as an overreaction is simply me being as comprehensive as I can

Yep!

I'm not sure how telling you to relax once turns into "keeps telling".

EDIT: Oh I see, I also said "Now now, lets be nice" on page one. Well, jeez dude, you are going on the offensive.

Ah, my fault dude, I thought for some reason you told me to "relax" twice.

I'm still not sure why you think I'm being aggressive or going on the offensive. I've made just two posts, one which simply said this probably doesn't belong in General Discussion and the other listed all the (what I felt were) obvious reasons Toady might be not be happy with this project

[Taal]

Well I, for one, am being negative about this.

It would have been quite fine if Xam came to the fora, and in the proper section explained that he is working on a Browser based Rogue-like. That this game took inspiration from Dwarf Fortress and that because of that he thinks that our community would like this game. However that's not what he has done.

Instead he has made a Topic in the Wrong Section, claiming "I've just started working on a multiplayer browser version of DF" and that all the ideas for this multiplayer DF ripoff, with no permission from Toady, were his own. All the while making unsubstantiated claims about his progress, and his ability as a programmer.

Personally I have doubts that he really is working on a game at all. This;

im working on like 12 multiplayer games on and off at the moment, all of which are my own idea. some of which are real complex, and pretty fun so im blatently not trying to rip somebody off for recognition/whatever, and i have a large steady flow of my own ideas thhhhankyou

Is not what I take as proof for anything. However even if he does come forth with a Browser based Rogue-like, he's approach to this situation was wrong and lends itself to replies such as mine.

[Hummingbird]

It's hard enough to make any sort of MP roguelike in the first place, let alone (I would assume) one based on DF.  But this is based on the assumption that it will be a roguelike, of course.

If he manages to get any kind of product released, I would be very interested in trying it; honestly, though, I'm not holding my breath.

That said, good luck, sir!

[Footkerchief]

If you guys are upset about this thread being in the wrong forum, ask the OP to move it via the thread controls in the lower left.  That's seriously such a petty thing to call him/her out for.

[Jimmy]

I think the only thing being stolen here is inspiration.

How many people have made their own home-brew games based on D&D, Final Fantasy or other game titles? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Wishing you well in your endeavor Xan. Good on you for working on your own project with such enthusiasm. If you ever do get a working version running, be sure to credit Toady and link his donation page.

[Sowelu]

And never, ever forget:  The smallest, most pitiful playable game is better than a thousand grand ideas, never finished!

People totally overshoot when they make stuff these days.

[Deon]

I wonder why Dungeon Master wasn't mentioned yet. It has a very DF-like world, ability to build workshops, same skill system, very similar races, mining etc. It works perfectly (although there was some kind of mini-war between "Toady's lovers" and "Ginseng's lovers".