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[LeoLeonardoIII]

So strange moods are partly based on how many tiles you have exposed in your fort.

You can add new native tiles by pouring water on magma. If you channel the magma to a cooling room and then water it, it turns into walls which you can mine out or engrave or whatever.

If you have an infinite source of magma you can dig out the new walls and repeat over and over. This is a magma farm.

So do the new rock tiles count as newly-exposed area that accumulates toward your strange mood limit?

[IronBeer]

That's a really good question... is there any way to quantify the number of "explored" tiles, though?

[Derakon]

I doubt it. It's more likely to be the process of changing a square from "you don't know what's in here" to "you know what's in here", which is best accomplished by doing exploratory mining.

However, I also doubt that anyone has seriously investigated this.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

You could test by mining out the absolute minimum on your fort to support a maximal population, create a ton of goods to satisfy the other strange mood limitation, and get an enormous obsidian farming operation going. If you stop getting moods after your first or second artifact and you stay dry for 30 years we could probably say the trick doesn't work.

Of course the experimenter would need to log how many full loads of obsidian were made and note the size of the farm. A farm of 400 tiles (20x20) would need to fill nearly 6 times to qualify for one additional mood. Not really that much effort I guess. But you'd need to control the expansion otherwise to make sure the mood came because of the obsidian farm.

[Sysice]

Solution: build an aboveground fort and the biggest farm ever. Now if there is any moods at all, it works!

[tNok85]

You could easily modify to give yourself effectively limitless starting points, so you could bring almost all the materials you could possibly use. Just to experiment. Then you wouldn't have to dig at all but to set up the obsidian farm, and your dwarves could all be just there to operate the massive obsidian farm and mine it.

I think I will experiment with this.

[pushy]

is there any way to quantify the number of "explored" tiles, though?

Quite easily, actually. Load up a fort or start a new fort and as you check out underground areas and stuff, you'll see lots of hidden or 'blacked out' tiles. If you were to count up the number of these hidden tiles at the very start of the game, you've got a base to work from. Gradually as you dig into the mountain you're revealing those tiles - the number of hidden tiles is decreasing, and the number of unhidden or 'explored' tiles is increasing. Taking a stab in the dark that probably isn't how it's actually done in DF but I'm just saying it can be a REALLY straightforward thing to do.

[Neyvn]

I think I would say yes, one method I use to attempt a MagmaFort (see Fort inside Magmapipe) its to cap and ramp the levels, minus the small area around the pipe itself for resizing (like 20 tiles each level) I have had moods after only the first level of Excavation...

[Satarus]

IIRC the artifact code just looks at the number of revealed tiles.  Obsidian Casts are already revealed so it won't change the number of revealed tiles.

[cephalo]

I am making a huge obsidian cast fort, with not alot of underground work so far, and I'm having huge immigration problems. That is, nobody wants to move in.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

You made your magma deathtrap too obvious.