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[Lofn]

I'm doing some extensive modding (including deleting entity_default and matgloss_plants in their entirety) and up until this point everything was working smoothly - the world was genning fine, gameplay was excellent, the whole nine yards.  Then I decided to add in about five monsters at once, and lo and behold as soon as I hit E to embark on the world map, my game crashed.

My errorlog was:

Unrecognized Plant Alcohol Token: NONE
Unrecognized Plant Alcohol Token: NONE

I then immediately removed the new creatures and still crashed when embarking with the same errors.  I always delete my objects folder and gen a new world when I make any significant changes, so it's nothing to do with that.  Can anyone suggest where I should look or what raws I should examine to find the problem?  I'm happy to post anything, but I don't really know where to start.

[Deon]

Which plant has a wrong alcohol token? Did you try to look through your plants?

[Lofn]

Yes, I did - nothing seems to be wrong.  Also, the modded plants were working perfectly fine for several hours before I started crashing.

I'll post the raws here anyway.

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matgloss_plant_dherka

[OBJECT:MATGLOSS]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:SLUG_CLUSTER]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:7:0:0]
   [NAME:slugspawn][NAME_PLURAL:slugspawn]
   [WET][BIOME:ANY_WETLAND]
   [VALUE:5]
   [GENPOWER:1]
   [EXTRACT:slug venom:7:0:1]
   [EXTRACTVALUE:100]
   [EXTRACT_STILL_VIAL]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [FREQUENCY:5]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:1]
   [PREFSTRING:slimy coats]
   [SEED:2:0:0]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:THUKKA_BUSH]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:5:0:0]
   [NAME:thukka berry][NAME_PLURAL:thukka berries]
   [DRY][BIOME:NOT_FREEZING]
   [GENPOWER:1]
   [DRINK:thukka juice:5:0:1]
   [DRINKVALUE:1]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [SEED:0:0:1]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:purple colour]
   [SEED:2:0:0]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:THORNY_GRASPER]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [NAME:thorny grasper][NAME_PLURAL:thorny graspers]
   [DRY][BIOME:ANY_DESERT]
   [VALUE:2]
   [GENPOWER:1]
   [DRINK:grasper pulp:5:0:1]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [SEED:0:0:1]
   [FREQUENCY:50]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:knobbly shape]
   [SEED:0:0:1]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:WIREGRASS]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:6:0:1]
   [NAME:wiregrass][NAME_PLURAL:wiregrass]
   [DRY][BIOME:ANY_GRASSLAND]
   [VALUE:2]
   [GENPOWER:1]
   [DRINK:wirewine:6:0:0]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [MILL:wiregrass flour:7:0:1]
   [MILL_VALUE:20]
   [COOKABLE_WHEN_MILLED]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [SEED:6:0:0]
   [FREQUENCY:50]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [PREFSTRING:knotted appearance]
   [SEED:6:0:0]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:CAVE_FUNGUS]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:5:0:1]
   [NAME:cave mould][NAME_PLURAL:cave mould]
   [GROWDUR:300][VALUE:2]
   [DRINK:cavebrew:5:0:0]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [SEEDNAME:cave mould spores][SEED:4:0:1]
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [SPRING][SUMMER][AUTUMN][WINTER]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:furry texture]
   [WET][DRY][BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:CREEPER_VINE]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:2:0:1]
   [NAME:creeper vine][NAME_PLURAL:creeper vines]
   [GROWDUR:300][VALUE:2]
   [DRINK:creeper wine:7:0:0]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [SEED:4:0:1]
   [GENPOWER:1]
   [SUMMER][AUTUMN]
   [FREQUENCY:100]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [THREAD]
   [PREFSTRING:tangled weave]
   [WET][DRY][BIOME:SUBTERRANEAN_WATER]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:SANDWORM_CLUSTER]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:6:0:0]
   [NAME:sandworm cluster][NAME_PLURAL:sandworm clusters]
   [GROWDUR:500][VALUE:2]
   [DRINK:sandbrew:7:0:0]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [SEEDNAME:sandworm larvae][SEED:4:0:1]
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [SPRING][SUMMER]
   [FREQUENCY:50]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:pale heads]
   [WET][DRY][BIOME:ANY_DESERT]

[MATGLOSS_PLANT:SPINY_GROWTHS]
   [TILE:'s'][COLOR:2:0:0]
   [NAME:spiny growth][NAME_PLURAL:spiny growths]
   [GROWDUR:500][VALUE:2]
   [DRINK:cactus juice:7:0:0]
   [DRINKVALUE:2]
   [SEEDNAME:spine pods][SEED:4:0:1]
   [GENPOWER:2]
   [SPRING][SUMMER]
   [FREQUENCY:70]
   [CLUSTERSIZE:5]
   [EDIBLE_VERMIN]
   [EDIBLE_RAW]
   [PREFSTRING:delicious taste]
   [WET][DRY][BIOME:ANY_DESERT]

[Deon]

Uh, it's hard to debug the whole thing by this file only. Could you send me a zipped folder? I will look into files and find the cause.

[Lofn]

Sure thing.  Thank you so much for looking at it, it's got me stumped.

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?zm4zcmmhkto

Bizarrely, I tried genning a new world right before I posted this and embarked successfully, but when I quit and tried again it crashed as usual.

[Lofn]

(The files I've added are all 'whatever_dherka'.  I also removed a few monsters from creature_standard.)

[Deon]

THere must be something on your end, try a fresh installation. Yout files work for me nicely.

[Johnny Chthonic]

Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with your raws...
I dunno man, sorry.

[Lofn]

Drat.  Thank you for your help anyway, guys, I'll try a clean install and see what happens.

Yep, it now seems to be working perfectly fine.  How bizarre.  Thanks guys!

[Lofn]

Sigh.  Now it's crashing randomly and not generating any errors for the errorlog.  I am confused!

EDIT: It's also crashing on embark.  Still nothing showing up in either the gamelog or the errorlog.

[Johnny Chthonic]

If it's crashing on embark then it's having trouble with something you're bringing with you, I would guess. Try embarking in a desert or whatnot (somewhere without plants) and only taking one of your plants at a time and see if it still works. Try not taking any?

What else is modded in your install? Unless you're sure it's the plants, get rid of everything else. Also make sure there aren't duplicate entries anywhere, that makes things go crazy.

[Lofn]

By embark, I mean when I hit E on the world map; I'm not even getting the chance to select stuff to take.  I don't think it's based on items I'm taking, either, because I have a successful working save in another file, and all my modded items appear to be working fine.  Migrants and caravans appear without causing the game to crash in that save, as well, but it randomly decides to die after about  half an hour of play.

EDIT: After some testing, apparently I can embark onto sites from my custom worldgen (mostly desert, grassland and badlands) but I can't embark into areas from the standard worldgen.  This confuses me greatly.  I'll try removing my modded files and sticking them back in one at a time until something breaks.

EDIT EDIT: This is freaking strange.  It's crashing at random, apparently, because it will sometimes allow me to embark onto a site and at others times it crashes, for the EXACT SAME SITE.

EDIT EDIT EDIT: Interesting!  Up until the point where I deleted matgloss_plants from my fresh install it was embarking fine.  Are some vanilla plants mandatory?  Editdoubleplus: adding matgloss_plant back in from my DF zip appears to have fixed the crash issue.

[Deon]

Maybe some areas which require plants do not have such (with the right biomes)? I mean, forests need trees and shrublands need shrubs etc.

[Lofn]

Maybe some areas which require plants do not have such (with the right biomes)? I mean, forests need trees and shrublands need shrubs etc.

That seems logical; considering that I was embarking fairly well on desert tiles but not on scrub, it's safe to assume it had something to do with plantless biomes.

[Deon]

Deserts are not plantless, they need trees and some bushes assigned to them.