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[nil]

Does that mean that they siege sooner or later?

Triggers are an OR function, hitting any one will set off the civ in question.  So, the bad extra tags make the treants come sooner.  The production triggers, in particular, seem easy to reach (mostly due to artifacts).

[Deon]

Here it is, my repack with graphics and addons:
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=1608

This time I playtested it for 5 years so it sould be fine.

I am starting a new fort, I will try to make this one as organized as possible .

[Danarca]

I just played a 5 year fort to the end with 1.0, wanted it to end before switching to 1.1 :p
About no migrants, even at 500k~ wealth
Had 13 dwarves when it ended, with 2 champions proficient in swords and crossbows.
Had 150~ kills combined

Ended when a werewolf siege killed the champion heralding 93 kills and stormed the fort, killing the other champion in his sleep

Hopefully I'll get more dwarves in 1.1 !!

Really having fun with this nil, thanks a lot for making this

[Deon]

I had no problems with immigrants in 1,1.

[jocan2003]

I just played a 5 year fort to the end with 1.0, wanted it to end before switching to 1.1 :p
About no migrants, even at 500k~ wealth
Had 13 dwarves when it ended, with 2 champions proficient in swords and crossbows.
Had 150~ kills combined

Ended when a werewolf siege killed the champion heralding 93 kills and stormed the fort, killing the other champion in his sleep

Hopefully I'll get more dwarves in 1.1 !!

Really having fun with this nil, thanks a lot for making this

same here with 1.0 i tend to get problem with immigrant i can go on for about a full year without getting migrant even with 4milion wealth, untill the damn dwarven liaison come for the second time and then i get full wave of migrant for about a full year lolll

[nil]

same here with 1.0 i tend to get problem with immigrant i can go on for about a full year without getting migrant even with 4milion wealth, untill the damn dwarven liaison come for the second time and then i get full wave of migrant for about a full year lolll

Yeah, that was happening because people were getting so routinely seiged that they'd go for years without getting a dwarven caravan.  With population triggers, the progression of invaders should be slowed down enough to prevent that from happening (as much/as early).

Glad you dig it, Danarca.

[Valdoom]

What are the triggers?  I'm in my first winter and I haven't seen anything.  I'm not too worried yet, but I was really worried about being seiged by frogmen before I even had rooms build.

[nil]

What are the triggers?  I'm in my first winter and I haven't seen anything.  I'm not too worried yet, but I was really worried about being seiged by frogmen before I even had rooms build.

Frogman basically come as quickly as possible, they have level one progress and population triggers (triggers are an OR function so as soon as one hits you're good to go).  However, depending on the RNG and (I think) how far you are from said Frogmen on the worldmap, "as quickly as possible" can be anything from the first summer to the third year.

The other triggers are mostly population based; a few have production triggers too so low-pop forts see some action, but those are set a little higher (for example, the ogres have a pop trigger of 4 and a production trigger of 5, plus they're babysnatchers so there's about a year's delay on top of that.)

Playtesting for 1.2 atm.  Most changes are just for worldgen, but I'm revamping the treants some more (taking away [severs on breaks] and giving them a weak bludgeoning weapon but halving their damblock; should make defeating them feel a little less gamey, plus it ups their worldgen resiliency so if needed I can weaken them a lot more easily than I could before).

[Danarca]

In a fort of mine I climbed to 11~ population, and started getting frogmen sieges.
I had 2 dedicated, legendary engravers starting to engrave everything with masterful engravings to get more population.

Anyways, I got treants instead.
Auch.

[nil]

In a fort of mine I climbed to 11~ population, and started getting frogmen sieges.
I had 2 dedicated, legendary engravers starting to engrave everything with masterful engravings to get more population.

Anyways, I got treants instead.
Auch.

At 11 population?  That shouldn't be possible in the current version, maybe it's another of those data/objects things..?

[jocan2003]

I think if you embark on treant teritory you can get them come on you faster, IM NOT sure if it is true, im merely basing thats on some random playing i did but i havent tested or took time to verify.

[Danarca]

From the entitty file under treants:

Code: [Select]

[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:5]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:5]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:5]
Besides a double population trigger, you still got the trade trigger.

Remember, progress triggers are OR, not AND operators.

[nil]

From the entitty file under treants:

Code: [Select]

[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:5]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_POPULATION:5]
[PROGRESS_TRIGGER_TRADE:5]
Besides a double population trigger, you still got the trade trigger.

Remember, progress triggers are OR, not AND operators.

Goddammit! I knew about that shit (more a question of missing a spot upgrading to 1.1 than not knowing how triggers work but a retarded mistake nonetheless) a week ago and could have sworn I fixed both the DFFD copy and the manual version but apparently I did a crappy job on the one and none at all on the other.

At least now we know that trade triggers kick in at least as quickly as production ones, which I was pretty curious about.  Too bad you had to learn the hard way, very sorry about that.  Everything's fixed now, for what it's worth.

[Danarca]

Heh, no problem
You're juggling quite a bit of civilisations, so mistakes occur naturally :p

[jocan2003]

I would like to know if its only me but when i get sieged by treant i always get a massive drop in fps no matter what.