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[jocan2003]

Could you double check your errorlog and fix your many typpo? Theire is some equipement typpo, tag typpo and others too if i remeber i just didnt think about noting them....

[Danarca]

Hey nil, just giving some feedback.
I'm having a hard time with getting migrants in this mod, just had a fort last 5 years (longest so far with RA) before werewolves gained entrance.
I was sieged about 70% of that time.
My population was never above 12, so just about everyone had hero names because they had to take care of kobolds and harpies.

So, first: Fix immigration. I don't know if it's because the dwarves have a hard time in legends mode and therefore don't have enough to send, or if the requirements are higher, but I feel that my fort, the one mentioned, with a wealth of 400,000 should have attracted more than 4 immigrants in it's lifetime =/

Second, change the triggers for siegers.
I was forced to lock up because I got sieged by treants with nothing but 12 dwarves because I had attempted to raise my wealth.
And when you're sieged 70% of the time, immigrants can't really arrive on the map, because they spawn at fixed times(right?).
So you can easily get into a bad circle that way.

Third, harpies are broken, they just hang in the sky. Don't move, nothing. Don't know why.

My 2 cents, hope it's useful

[nil]

Could you double check your errorlog and fix your many typpo? Theire is some equipement typpo, tag typpo and others too if i remeber i just didnt think about noting them....

Yeah, to my infinite embarrassment I only discovered the errorlog about 5 days ago.  Everything will be cleaned up very soon.

Hey nil, just giving some feedback.
I'm having a hard time with getting migrants in this mod, just had a fort last 5 years (longest so far with RA) before werewolves gained entrance.
I was sieged about 70% of that time.
My population was never above 12, so just about everyone had hero names because they had to take care of kobolds and harpies.

So, first: Fix immigration. I don't know if it's because the dwarves have a hard time in legends mode and therefore don't have enough to send, or if the requirements are higher, but I feel that my fort, the one mentioned, with a wealth of 400,000 should have attracted more than 4 immigrants in it's lifetime =/

Second, change the triggers for siegers.
I was forced to lock up because I got sieged by treants with nothing but 12 dwarves because I had attempted to raise my wealth.
And when you're sieged 70% of the time, immigrants can't really arrive on the map, because they spawn at fixed times(right?).
So you can easily get into a bad circle that way.

Third, harpies are broken, they just hang in the sky. Don't move, nothing. Don't know why.

My 2 cents, hope it's useful

Points one and two, hopefully, will be solved by the next release (which is out in 0-2 days).  I'm switching to population triggers, which seems to be slowing things down--in my test fort, I'm on the spring of year 3 and I've only had one small frogman siege.  At the elast, it should prevent a situation like the one you're talking about.

re: the harpies:  were you on a cold map?  I'm hoping the reason they don't work on the current map is their lack of laying in the current release, although it could be just much noted problems with fliers and their pathfinding (I just can't figure out how the SoFs in SPIV were so effective!)

[Danarca]

Yeah i was confused as well =\ but no, the fort was in a temperate biome... Really strange... Could the sentient-related tags be messing it up? Or..? Hmm, try double-checking the body tags? Maybe its trying to walk?

[nil]

Yeah i was confused as well =\ but no, the fort was in a temperate biome... Really strange... Could the sentient-related tags be messing it up? Or..? Hmm, try double-checking the body tags? Maybe its trying to walk?

Shouldn't be anything like that, the body entry is vanilla, as is (other than layering and [EQUIPS]) the creature entry.  Maybe something with the sneaking?  I remember there was a bugged ambush party in SP6...

The ax is definitely hanging over their heads.

[TheDeadlyShoe]

Yeah I've never seen a harpy do anything.

[jocan2003]

By the way sorry i didnt say it in the first post but thank you for your hard work on this mod, its a great addition and finaly im having fun

[Danarca]

Until further notice harpies will be detonated using the thermonuclear "fix"

[darkflagrance]

From my own experience with modded flying baby snatchers, the [flier] tag does indeed screw over path-finding upon spawning for ambushers, and has strange effects on special units like thieves.

If the flier spawns on the ground, its path-finding is normal. This leads to epic attacks.

If the flier spawns in the air, it becomes stuck and never moves or attacks, probably because it cannot path to the ground. Ambushers or other stealthed creatures frozen like this will not move again, even if discovered, unless they are injured to the point of unconsciousness or otherwise knocked to the ground, where if they recover they will act as normal.

By the way, despite the fact that my baby-snatcher fliers did indeed practice baby-snatching in world-gen (among other things, their leader was an elf baby-snatcher stolen by a former leader), they never sent thieves to my fort, nor did I discover frozen thieves during the sweeps my military made of frozen ambushers.

It might therefore be better to remove the [flier] tag from harpies.

[forsaken1111]

From my own experience with modded flying baby snatchers, the [flier] tag does indeed screw over path-finding upon spawning for ambushers, and has strange effects on special units like thieves.

If the flier spawns on the ground, its path-finding is normal. This leads to epic attacks.

If the flier spawns in the air, it becomes stuck and never moves or attacks, probably because it cannot path to the ground. Ambushers or other stealthed creatures frozen like this will not move again, even if discovered, unless they are injured to the point of unconsciousness or otherwise knocked to the ground, where if they recover they will act as normal.

By the way, despite the fact that my baby-snatcher fliers did indeed practice baby-snatching in world-gen (among other things, their leader was an elf baby-snatcher stolen by a former leader), they never sent thieves to my fort, nor did I discover frozen thieves during the sweeps my military made of frozen ambushers.

It might therefore be better to remove the [flier] tag from harpies.

Replace them with some sort of fey creature. There are a number of them which like to steal children/babies.

[BurnedToast]

I liked the earlier version a whole lot so I'm definitely going to give this one a try.

Any idea what the max pop you need to get the highest level enemies is? I'd like to keep mine as low as possible but I want all the monsters to be attacking me.

[nil]

I got Treants at about 105.  I suspect it's based on the Outpost/Hamlet/Village/Town/City designations with a little plus or minus based on distance.  I'd cap it at 110, and then bump it up a little if you seem to be missing anything.

[forsaken1111]

Just for kicks, I'm now mixing this mod into my bigger modded copy of DF which includes my own modifications as well as 2 tribal orc civilizations, drow, 2 new elf civs, and the primitive civs mod. Should be fun to watch the fireworks on world gen.

Is there a maximum number of civs by the way?

[forsaken1111]

Is anyone able to download the new ver 1.1? I get an unexpected end of archive when I try to open it.

[nil]

Works fine for me, try re-downloading.

As far as a max number of civs...  I've heard there is, but at the least it's pretty high.  I'm not sure how many civs privative mods includes but I bet you'll be fine.