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Author Topic: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼  (Read 5378 times)

Strant

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☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« on: October 16, 2009, 03:02:24 pm »

Some guy actually made spider silk cloth.  He has a machine that milks the spiders 24 at a time.  I'm just amazed at it.

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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 03:30:56 pm »

Someone already posted about this a while ago. I think its on page two or three.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2009, 02:28:23 pm »

First I had heard of it, nice find.
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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2009, 07:15:44 pm »

That thing is beautiful.  The color is brilliant!  I wonder what it feels like...
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2009, 07:21:23 pm »

That thing is beautiful.  The color is brilliant!  I wonder what it feels like...
Like the taint of the foul arachnids that produced it.  Of course, calling arachnids foul is a bit redundant.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2009, 10:20:05 pm »

Is that just a troll or what?

But back to DF- how to hell do you string together a cloth from gathering webs with your bare hands?
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2009, 10:33:37 pm »

Is that just a troll or what?
No.  Just a silly way of saying spiders bother me.  Even the webs make me feel uncomfortable to touch, and that thing is made of web.  It probably doesn't feel very different from normal silk, though.
But back to DF- how to hell do you string together a cloth from gathering webs with your bare hands?
I've been wondering about that, and I just put it down to one of those abstractions that are there due to the game being in alph - like how engravers don't use chisels.
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And this is how tinned food was invented.
Alternately: The Brick Testament. It's a really fun look at what the bible would look like if interpreted literally. With Legos.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2009, 05:48:49 am »

But back to DF- how to hell do you string together a cloth from gathering webs with your bare hands?

Personally, I think its back to the beard again.

To begin with, The dwarf in question, upon finding the spiderweb, dips his beard into the web and starts moving it this way and that. This causes the individual strands to be wound upon the beard. The better the dwarf is at it, the less breaks in the web.
When they get back to the settlements cloth stockpile, they use a fine comb to pull the strands off. Loremasters of Dwarven technology tell the most worthy dwarves of how a comb that has been used to brush a cat and has not yet been touched with iron can use the trapped playfulness of the cat to tease the strands onto the comb. This comes from the belief that if, after brushing a cat (an act not normally commited by any dwarf) if the comb does not touch iron, the cats playfulness is trapped, and after five days the cat crawls into a box and becomes undead. This is called the Schroidurist theory. The loremasters tell the weavers of a chant to bring back a cats playfulness.
A man who heard this tried telling the dwarves about magnetism and electrostatic forces, but the dwarves told him to bugger off and not be an idiot. That was after they had removed his left leg, and wrestled the axe from the loremasters fingers.

After that, the looming is easier. The comb is interwoven into the looms threads, and with extreme care, the spidersilk is wound off of the combs hairs onto the loom.

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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2009, 05:18:46 pm »

That thing is beautiful.  The color is brilliant!  I wonder what it feels like...
Like the taint of the foul arachnids that produced it.  Of course, calling arachnids foul is a bit redundant.

Agreed.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2009, 03:04:14 am »

Spider silk is actually pretty powerful. If this is the real deal, that cloth ought to be bullet proof.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2009, 01:16:04 pm »

Not necessarily.  Most of the strength of Kevlar comes not from the properties of the chemicals it is made of, but the way it is weaved.  I doubt this piece of cloth would be strong enough to stop bullets.  It may, however, be able to be used as a very light, strong rope.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2009, 02:36:20 pm »

Not necessarily.  Most of the strength of Kevlar comes not from the properties of the chemicals it is made of, but the way it is weaved.  I doubt this piece of cloth would be strong enough to stop bullets.  It may, however, be able to be used as a very light, strong rope.

On the other hand, it has some ultra-fine fibers, and therefore could easily be made in a similar but even stronger weave than Kevlar, and be pretty much invulnerable.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2009, 04:30:49 pm »

Spiders are cool as long as they stay outside or within reach of a window. That is where your optimum fly-catching areas are, you stupid bastards.
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« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2009, 08:19:31 pm »

On the other hand, it has some ultra-fine fibers, and therefore could easily be made in a similar but even stronger weave than Kevlar, and be pretty much invulnerable.
In general a "good" fiber is something that is stiff and strong. Spider silk is tough, but it gains that toughness by being weak and stretchy. This makes it an awful replacement for something like Kevlar, or just about any fiber. Heck, regular wool is tougher then Kevlar, but I know which one I'd want my bullet proof vest made out of.

If you're looking at something that could be replaced by spider silk then you should look at applications where low stiffness and/or high elongation potential are desired. An example of something to look at is synthetic rubber. Compared to rubber the viscid parts of a web are reasonably elastic, and extremely strong.
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Re: ☼Orb Spider Silk Cloth☼
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2009, 08:37:36 pm »

AH HA HA HA, LOOK AT THE LEETLE BEBIES, A-SCARED OF DA SPIDAR.

OH HO HO HO. I have a bro spider, who made his web right outside my window and catches flies that try to fly in. Thanks to him, I can leave my window open AND not have to worry about flies.

When I see them in the house, I pick them up(WITH MY HANDS, YOU BEBIES) and put them outside. Most spiders are harmless.
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