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[Irrational]

I just made a quick mod that will get rid of extra stone and may throw you the occasional gem. The chances of finding a gem are intentionally low, but with some very good luck, you may find more than one gem in any geode. I'm right now building a new world with this mod so I'm still seeing if it will even function if intended.

reaction_geode.txt

reaction_geode

[OBJECT:REACTION]

[REACTION:CRACK_GEODE]
[NAME:Crack geode]
[SMELTER]
[REAGENT:1:STONE:NO_SUBTYPE:STONE:NO_MATGLOSS]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:CRYSTAL_ROCK]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:CITRINE]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:SMOKY_QUARTZ]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:ROSE_QUARTZ]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:MILK_QUARTZ]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:SUNSTONE]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:BLUE_GARNET]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:CLEAR_GARNET]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:PINK_GARNET]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:MILK_QUARTZ]
[PRODUCT:1:1:ROUGH:AMETHYST]

edit: removed additional gem . See first 2 replies for detail.

[Derakon]

Um, as a general rule, it's spelled "amethyst", not "amythest". And amethysts are in the game, in matgloss_stone_gem.txt.

[Irrational]

Um, as a general rule, it's spelled "amethyst", not "amythest". And amethysts are in the game, in matgloss_stone_gem.txt.

 that would explain why I couldn't find it with crtl-f. Ignore my stupidity then. This error will be rectified.

[Taritus]

Also, a .5 in the % thing isn't going to do you any good.  I don't think the game will even read a non-integer value.

[Sensei]

I think someone already made this as part of a larger mod, pretty much exactly as you did. Or was it only suggested?

Anyway, further tests would be good- for example, does it roll for each crystal (effectively giving you a 55% chance of any stone being a geode) separately? Also, you might want to increase the probability of rock crystal- they're rare, useful if you have sand, and it makes sense.

[Irrational]

I was hoping it would read a non-integer value. Oh well. It's just that 1% would seem a bit high with an 11% chance of finding at least 1 gem. I suppose I could just cut + paste a bit to make 11 different reactions or cut down the number of gems.

I want to make this as balanced as possible, but it seems that it will be difficult. With everything in one reaction and the necessity to use an integer probability just makes it so that you receive too many gems. Making separate reactions fixes that problem but then people would just try looking for rock crystal most likely; the random chance of a geode not containing the gem you want is eliminated.

And if this has been done before, then I guess I'll just delete the thread in short order. I'll let it stick around for one more day in case anyone has suggestions.

[darius]

Kinda non-direct way: make a reaction witch makes a GEODE gem with low chance, then another reaction to crack it. This way you could lower chance.

[i2amroy]

I think someone already made this as part of a larger mod, pretty much exactly as you did. Or was it only suggested?

Anyway, further tests would be good- for example, does it roll for each crystal (effectively giving you a 55% chance of any stone being a geode) separately? Also, you might want to increase the probability of rock crystal- they're rare, useful if you have sand, and it makes sense.

From what I know it does roll each roll separately.

[ricemastah]

I'm fairly certain that it will just count out a hundred reactions and give you one of each at the end of the reaction. Have you tested it?

[Deon]

It's not a CHANCE, it's a percentage of a full output. There's no magical random generator, just a simple addition. It was tested a hundred of times and proved, but still there're some trolls here and there confusing honest folk.

[LegoLord]

It's not a CHANCE, it's a percentage of a full output. There's no magical random generator, just a simple addition. It was tested a hundred of times and proved, but still there're some trolls here and there confusing honest folk.

Could you go into a bit more detail, and not accuse people of being trolls just because they just happened to miss the thread where this was tested?

[Bricks]

It's not a CHANCE, it's a percentage of a full output. There's no magical random generator, just a simple addition. It was tested a hundred of times and proved, but still there're some trolls here and there confusing honest folk.

Could you go into a bit more detail, and not accuse people of being trolls just because they just happened to miss the thread where this was tested?

This.  I've lurked the modding forums quite a bit, and know a number of tricks, but I've never heard anything about this.

[Retro42]

I actually wrote something similiar to pull ores out of common rocktypes.  Any elaboration on the output chance/percent would be very useful.  Or at least a link to the info.

Thanks

[Ieb]

I'm not exactly savvy with reaction modding at the moment, but shouldn't the product of the reaction be ROUGH instead of STONE?

Because rough gem's aren't exactly stones to the game.

[Deon]

It's not a CHANCE, it's a percentage of a full output. There's no magical random generator, just a simple addition. It was tested a hundred of times and proved, but still there're some trolls here and there confusing honest folk.

Could you go into a bit more detail, and not accuse people of being trolls just because they just happened to miss the thread where this was tested?

I was not talking about you, but there were people who intentionally confused new modders.