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[illiterate]

Playing 40d16 with the "df extended" mod --

A group of half giants appeared as a siege, and wandered into my *lots and lots* of cage traps at the entrance.

One of the invaders was a horse.  It was caged, and a horse, so I had my animal trainer tame it.  It appeared to be a "stray horse (tame)"

When I let it out of it's cage, it started trying to leave, interrupted everyone's actions, kicked a war dog to death while suffering grievous wounds (although the brown liver might just be from going through the booze stockpile), and finally got caught in a cage trap at the door. 

So I checked the (u)nit list and it was a "stray horse (tame)      INVADER"

Should I assume this is normal behavior?  Invaders cannot be made friendly even when their creature type should be ? 

[PaperJack]

I'm pretty sure that creatures which have tasted dwarf blood can't be tamed. Maybe this is your case; but just kill it and then butcher it

[illiterate]

This is unlikely.  I had everyone cowering inside waiting for them to get past the cage traps. 

My cage traps have been fun so far with extended.  I have a white dragon waiting for a dungeon master to show up. 

[Derakon]

I don't think anyone's ever successfully tamed an invader steed before. You might want to report this as a bug -- either they shouldn't be tamable or they should be properly tame.

[illiterate]

posted.  thanks! 

i suppose it's possible if that horse existed as an entity it would have killed dwarfs before, but without a name that shouldn't be possible, right? 

[Blaze]

Any creature appearing as an invader will always be hostile, whether or not it killed a dwarf.

However, tamed invaders can still breed. Just let one of the males outside and all the females in cages will magically become pregnant. Tamed invaders will produce tame offspring, so you can let those out safely.

[Quietust]

However, tamed invaders can still breed. Just let one of the males outside and all the females in cages will magically become pregnant. Tamed invaders will produce tame offspring, so you can let those out safely.

The females won't become pregnant while they're inside cages - they have to either be chained up or roaming freely.

[Albedo]

i suppose it's possible if that horse existed as an entity it would have killed dwarfs before, but without a name that shouldn't be possible, right? 

The whole concept of "possible" implies that you have "logical, reasonable expectations" of a game which is 1) a game, 2) a fantasy game, and 3) an alpha-state fantasy game.

"Possible" is up to the imagination of the designer, and their interest in consistency in the game code. 

Invader mounts are the equivalent of blood-tasting animals.  It happens. Accept it.

[AlienChickenPie]

Any creature appearing as an invader will always be hostile, whether or not it killed a dwarf.

However, tamed invaders can still breed. Just let one of the males outside and all the females in cages will magically become pregnant. Tamed invaders will produce tame offspring, so you can let those out safely.

Do invader mares turn against their offspring and kick them halfway across the map as soon as they leave the womb?

[Skorpion]

i suppose it's possible if that horse existed as an entity it would have killed dwarfs before, but without a name that shouldn't be possible, right? 

The whole concept of "possible" implies that you have "logical, reasonable expectations" of a game which is 1) a game, 2) a fantasy game, and 3) an alpha-state fantasy game.

"Possible" is up to the imagination of the designer, and their interest in consistency in the game code. 

Invader mounts are the equivalent of blood-tasting animals.  It happens. Accept it.

Don't forget that this is DF, where straaaange things happen.

Also, invader mounts also give birth if left long enough. I once had a human siege where one of the horses gave birth to a foal, which was then shot to death by an archer.

[Albedo]

Which implies that the taste of dwarven blood is transfered congenitally.

Do invader mares turn against their offspring and kick them halfway across the map as soon as they leave the womb?

Ya know, I want to say that someone did report this, but I'm not sure. 

It wouldn't surprise me a bit, either way.   

[Malicus]

Someone DID report this once, and I found the thread!  http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=37225.0

[Jim Groovester]

I don't think anyone's ever successfully tamed an invader steed before. You might want to report this as a bug -- either they shouldn't be tamable or they should be properly tame.

I've 'tamed' several invader horses on my goblin maps. In fact, every horse that I've captured was tamable. They would just remain hostile after tamed, but they would exhibit invader behavior and try to run off the map.

Do invader mares turn against their offspring and kick them halfway across the map as soon as they leave the womb?

They do. Leads to some funny moments when invader horses eat their young. Well, not eat, but brutally kill. The riders join in on the fun sometimes, too.

The offspring of invader mounts are not hostile, they can be tamed, and will be regular strays.