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[Leafsnail]

Have you already put in all the karma from Bay 12 Mafia or should I draw up a list?

[dakarian]

Mostly just need to know if anyone flaked/needed prodding/replaced. 

[Leafsnail]

There were a few replacement requests, but brothernature was the only one who needed replacing (he was replaced by Frelock).  Zai requested a replacement, but got better later, and continued.  Archangel requested a replacement, but was killed that night, so didn't need one.  Diakron requested a replacement, but the game ended that evening, so he wasn't replaced in the end.

Other than that... I think everyone was fine, although there was a lot of lurking towards the end, especially from Josh.  Then again, he was scum, so it was a legitimate tactic for him.

[dakarian]

Hm, so did you need to prod brothernature before his request?  If he asked first, it's just 0 karma.  If the prod came first, it's -1

Everyone else would be fine then.  Josh was active but hiding to avoid comment, which worked.  It's tricky, sometimes, to tell when someone is purposely lurking (a proper tactic) and truly lurking/forgetting the game (a karma penalty).

[Leafsnail]

No, I was forced to replace BN after a prod and no response.  I think that's definately the full -5 for flaking.

[dakarian]

-5 for Brother
+2 for frelock
+2 for leaf (host)
+1 for the rest

[ToonyMan]

Did you add the religious flame war mafias?  I'm most proud of those!

[dakarian]

Those need to be added.  I didn't run them though :p


Who DID run those?

[ToonyMan]

Those need to be added.  I didn't run them though :p


Who DID run those?

Leafsnail.

[Alexhans]

you can't punish people for lurking from outside the game.  That's a job for the town.  Lurking works for scum.  If you doubt that... Just look at the Paranormal game where I asked for a replacement and dropped from the face of the earth... I came back for lylo and hammered a town player.  We won. 

It wasn't flaking because I DID ask for a replacement (there was no replacement thread yet) but the fact that I could pull that off really sucked.

[dakarian]

Oh no.  Players that are active but lurking are just performing a strategy. 

Problem is that it's hard to tell.  You deal with actively playing lurkers by charging at them as town.  You deal with AWOL players by getting the host to prod them.

As a host, I accept folks who PM me telling me they are active but lurking.  That way I know they are just being strategic.  It's easier for scum since the quick chat is usually active. 

The town, though, has the right to know the difference.  As town, I handle people who aren't there at all by requesting a prod first.  If the host doesn't say the player isn't around then I assume they are active and start the town charge. 

I will do one thing though: if the player isn't posting and the game as a whole is suffering because of it, I WILL step in.  It's AWOL players grinding games to a halt that caused the Karma system to form in the first place.

[Leafsnail]

Those need to be added.  I didn't run them though :p


Who DID run those?

Leafsnail.

I didn't run them, I just lost the third one, remember ?  Dakarian decided to take revenge on me for nearly getting him killed day 1...

[Alexhans]

Lol... Your MS influence will do us good Dakarian... 

[dakarian]

Oh yahh. 

Bah, who was it then?  Servant Corps?

@Alex Bah, reliance of me is the first sign of failure.

[ToonyMan]

Wait yeah, it was Servant maybe.