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[CobaltKobold]

Never again.  People don't like it when you break the "spirit" legally.

Which is...strange, because the 'spirit' of mafia SEEMS to be to do anything and e'erything deceptive or not to achieve your goals.

[dakarian]

Well, the true spirit of mafia lies in 'play to win'.  There's a good many ways that you can alter, rig, or ruin a game if you don't mind losing.  So long as everyone actually 'plays to win' then much of that is removed.  The rest more falls on the game settings than the players themselves.

I.e. game breaking is really something that should never happen in a game but a player should be looking to perform.  It's the fault of the host if the player succeeds in finding a game breaking strategy.

As for pirate mafia, I'll take either the link to it or the name of the host (so I can go through their thread listings to find it.  Note that I'm only after abandonment: if you used a game function to ruin a game, so long as it was within the rules, you weren't doing anything anti-karma.

[A_Fey_Dwarf]

Pirate mafia one, probably the thirf or fourth mafia game created so naturally it was very unbalanced:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=28183.0

The second one i left locked in the night phase as well... I had made a complete mess of the game. Not transfering info properly for those switching teams and creating completely unbalanced sides:
http://www.bay12games.com/forum/index.php?topic=36961.0

[Cheeetar]

After reading Pirate Mafia again, I remember how awesome that was.

[dakarian]

First Pirate worked fully it seems with all active (I did a quick check though so not fully sure if someone just slipped under the radar).  Broken =! abandoned

Second Pirate.. I'll put it this way: I need to know if the people involved are willing to declare that you abandoned them.  If they will, then I'll remove the karma.  I need more than an abandoned game: I need the players willing to raise a fuss about it (otherwise, it looks like a game everyone just decided to give up on, and mutually abandoned games are..well.. null tells).

[webadict]

First Pirate worked fully it seems with all active (I did a quick check though so not fully sure if someone just slipped under the radar).  Broken =! abandoned

Second Pirate.. I'll put it this way: I need to know if the people involved are willing to declare that you abandoned them.  If they will, then I'll remove the karma.  I need more than an abandoned game: I need the players willing to raise a fuss about it (otherwise, it looks like a game everyone just decided to give up on, and mutually abandoned games are..well.. null tells).

It was actually AFD, because he kept running out of time to update the whole thing.

[Alexhans]

AFD didn't flake that one.  I agree with him.  Unfortunately, the game was too flawed to be satisfying for the remaining players.

[webadict]

AFD didn't flake that one.  I agree with him.  Unfortunately, the game was too flawed to be satisfying for the remaining players.

Well, that too.

[Alexhans]

and no comments about the karma points... 

Some playes with more than 5 points have flaked every single game I've played with them.

[CobaltKobold]

and no comments about the karma points... 

Some playes with more than 5 points have flaked every single game I've played with them.

Thread's only as good as the information it gets.

[webadict]

and no comments about the karma points... 

Some playes with more than 5 points have flaked every single game I've played with them.

Like m-- *leaves*

Nah, I'm a good kid, I am.

[dakarian]

If there's any issue with the karma in general, first check the listed games.  If the game isn't listed then I have no info on it.  That goes for karma gains and losses.

If the game is listed and something seems wrong raise a fuss.  I can only go off of the information you guys tell me. 

I can go ahead and put in Pirate mafia 1 since it seems everyone was in.  Sounds like Pirate 2 is more complicated.

Btw, in case it's asked: bad play =! a karma issue.  If it did then we'd be punishing newbies for being..well.. newbies or people who have unconventional play.  I want to keep this as a matter of attendance.

Now that we're all aware of it, especially hosts, the future games should result in more accurate statements.

Unless hosts don't bother to report in once their games end.

[dakarian]

Pirate Mafia 1 added

Still not getting a sure idea whether ADF alone flaked it or if everyone just deemed the whole thing broken.

[ToonyMan]

Toon Mafia IV is done if that matters.

Give everyone karma for participating in a disaster.

[dakarian]

Updated with toon mafia 4.