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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #345 on: December 07, 2009, 04:16:06 pm »

This will still be bullshit while there are people who can play 20 games at once and post one liners in all of them (and count as playing)...

I think I'll avoid mafia games for now unless I find one that has a specific list of players who will care about the game.
We could organize a small "S" group player game, with a setup like Lyncher or Vengeful.  Might be interesting to see how the masters do in a tough setup.
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« Reply #346 on: December 07, 2009, 04:59:17 pm »

Note the above is just a sample :P not the actual grades.  For one thing, I prefer more exact numbers (as in x # of prods for a D or so)

Also I mean use N for a person with under 5 games and let C for others.  Org's a funny case, JUST active enough to avoid insane prods but barely so.  B or C dependingly.


@Alex  I think you're mostly looking for the S rank.  I don't want to try to judge gamestyles in general BUT we can determine who the heavily "games run better with them around" people.  Thus S rank and possibly A rank will do. 

As for the ranks themselves:

S rank : Not just a regular player but an active one, to the point where the game suffers when they die.  Aka. Someone Alex would want to play with ;)

A rank : Extraordinary 1 prod MAX per quarter, no more than 1 per game.  No substitution requests.  Has substituted in for someone else in at least 2 games

B rank : Regular activity, has requested substitutions (but no forced subs), Most players fall here or in A.  Prods under 3 per quarter, 1 per game.

C rank : Lurkers either needing prods or simply lurking semi-regularly.  However, they play to the end, if they sometimes need to be pushed.  Prods, +3 per quarter or 2+ per game.  No forced substitutions.

D rank : May drop from your game unexpectedly.  Unreliable.  +2 substitutions or 1 forced substitution.


F rank : Specialized Fail rank.  Similar to S, requires special consideration to enter this rank.


N rank : Newbie rank.  Under 5 games.  No forced substitutions.



With that, A rank would be similar to the 2 star now while B would be 1 star.  Lurkers who still get to keep their 1-2 star would be in C rank now.  D rank is for those who occasionally flake while F is a special case of fail. 

Note that the key is still in the hosts.  If a player lurks but the host doesn't prod then they DON'T earn a C, even if they pissed off the other players.  It NEEDS hosts that will watch and strike at people who don't post. 

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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #347 on: December 07, 2009, 05:04:02 pm »

This will still be bullshit while there are people who can play 20 games at once and post one liners in all of them (and count as playing)...

I think I'll avoid mafia games for now unless I find one that has a specific list of players who will care about the game.
ALexhans is actually a W class gamer.

Who knows what W stands for?(HINT:ITS NOT A WINNER)
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« Reply #348 on: December 07, 2009, 05:31:01 pm »

Hah, I'm a C >_>

Time to go fix that, I suppose...
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #349 on: December 07, 2009, 05:40:29 pm »

The grading system will come with the reset.  Tempted to start keeping track starting with these recent games (chosen mafia will be the first recorded) then go from there.  Once the new year starts, I'll have a few games already to base the system on.

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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #350 on: December 07, 2009, 05:54:09 pm »

A rank :Has substituted in for someone else in at least 2 games

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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #351 on: December 07, 2009, 05:55:00 pm »

Hmm... I seem to be an A, right?
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #352 on: December 07, 2009, 05:59:17 pm »

So, uh... I'd be a B?
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #353 on: December 07, 2009, 06:10:11 pm »

This will still be bullshit while there are people who can play 20 games at once and post one liners in all of them (and count as playing)...

I think I'll avoid mafia games for now unless I find one that has a specific list of players who will care about the game.
ALexhans is actually a W class gamer.

Who knows what W stands for?(HINT:ITS NOT A WINNER)
You're an I.  But there's a lot more synonyms for you.

R is good too.
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #354 on: December 07, 2009, 06:11:07 pm »

@Zai Why not?  "B" is meant to be for most players.  It'll also heavily encourage people to become subbies.  Well, I would probably change it to ONE game, but meh.



Given that, Eduren and Leaf would be an A going by what's on here (Double star + 1 substitution).

Meanwhile, I need to ponder over the method of obtaining a S rank.

Btw, enough poking at each other on this thread.
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #355 on: December 07, 2009, 06:12:13 pm »

I for Ideal! Thanks!
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #356 on: December 07, 2009, 06:14:19 pm »

I suppose... an S rank could go to people whose reliability is beyond question.
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« Reply #357 on: December 07, 2009, 06:18:08 pm »

I suppose... an S rank could go to people whose reliability is beyond question.

But how dost one determine when it is beyond question? I have never deserted a game. Does this mean my reliability is beyond question?
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« Reply #358 on: December 07, 2009, 06:19:47 pm »

Possibly.  I'd say the most obvious S rank candidates would be Dakarian, Mephansteras and Webadict, but that's just my view.
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Re: The Mafia Board Karma Thread
« Reply #359 on: December 07, 2009, 06:21:12 pm »

S rank is more than reliability.  It's also for activity during the game.  This is the one rank where playstyle, availability, and perhaps skill can come into factor.  These are the players that aren't just in the game, but MOVE the game.  They can suck, or rock when it comes to playing, but the game WILL be active with them around.  When half the game has gone dead, they are not only still around but whipping the game back awake.  A game with nothing but S ranks will be frantic, busy, and without a HINT of a need to prod.


As far as the S rank system.. I'm pondering this:

A or B rank required (B only if the only thing lacking is the Substitution requirement)

3 nominations from players, one from a host. (can't self nominate)

2 games that represent their activity, preferably under difficult conditions. 

A vote from the current batch of S ranks (Yeas > Neys,  Abstain/Novote = Null)
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