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[Impaler[WrG]]

Updating a limited number of items would just make the game run (as in game speed not the FPS) slow as it take multiple draw frames to get through the game logic loop once, you'd see a high FPS but that would no longer be an accurate reflection of the game speed.

[kaypy]

Updating a limited number of items would just make the game run (as in game speed not the FPS) slow as it take multiple draw frames to get through the game logic loop once, you'd see a high FPS but that would no longer be an accurate reflection of the game speed.

DF would keep running at its normal speed. Stonesense would run at its normal speed. A subset of the items would be updated each Stonesense frame.

[Retro]

This is a bit offtopic, but a dfhack tool to auto-purge useless stone would be awesome for quickly nuking lag... but we can't yet determine stone types from a pile i don't think... Once thats done we could make it insta-nuke all the useless rocks.
Or maybe transmute them into something useful like bauxite...

If you like, you can set stone types you want removed to have a boiling point of about 10,000 urists, slightly under room temperature. Next time you load the game, all that stone will boil away to nothing. The only downside is that objects built from said stone will also boil away, so if you're planning on doing this, don't build out of whatever stone you want to waste.

(I'm just as equally off-topic, sorry)

[Impaler[WrG]]

Oh it seems you've misunderstood, I was speculating on how DF itself should manage item updates more efficiently not how StoneSense would read/interpret the items.

[Khalan]

Regarding objects in DF itself:

I've only done basic programming and I've got no idea how DF works, so I may be way off, but wouldn't it make more sense for object updating to be tied to actions instead of the object itself?

IE. No object gets checked unless an interaction occurs to change the state or position of that object.

Examples in plain language:
Eg. if carpenter chops tree then update object: remove object.
Eg. if tile falls and object exists on tile then update object position: -x z-levels.
Eg. if dwarf picks up object or if dwarf is carrying object then update object: position = dwarf's position.

Of course the above cases already happen in DF, but there doesn't seem to be a need to check objects continuously unless something happens to it or if DF needs to check for the existence of an object (for stock levels or available building stone etc).

Other objects that change over time need only be updated every so often as Impaler[WrG] suggested, such as grass tiles becoming dirt or trees changing colour with the seasons etc.

Like I said I've only done basic programming (literally DarkBasic Pro), so I'm probably better off leaving thoughts to the pros

[Belal]

This is a bit offtopic, but a dfhack tool to auto-purge useless stone would be awesome for quickly nuking lag... but we can't yet determine stone types from a pile i don't think...

this should actually be pretty simple if all you have to do is change the temperature of the stone to get it to boil off.  We can determine stone material types already, that is no problem.  I will see if I can get something working.

[Elvisman2001]

No problems here running Windows 7 64-bit and Stonesense.
If you have Stonesense or DF installed in C:\Program Files(x86), that may be why it's not working as this area is protected by the OS.  Try installing in a different folder.

Well. . .  so far i have tried:
turning off UAC
turning on windows XP compatibility mode

I don't have either of them installed in C:\Program Files(x86), they are both located in a downloads folder under my username at the moment.
So anyway, i have the latest DF with no tilesets or anything. Windows 7 64 bit. I7 920 Processor.  I run DF and load up my save game  (with no progress, I havent even issued any commands). I then run Stonesense, hit 'F9' and it just tells me it can't find  DF process.
Any more ideas?
Very frustrating.
This is the correct way to run Stonesense right?

[Elvisman2001]

Oh i also forgot to mention I do have Stonesense set to run as Administrator.

[Khalan]

Try running DF as Admin as well as Stonesense if you're not already.

Only other thing I can think of is a firewall or antivirus preventing access to the DF process.  You could try temporarily disabling one or both of them to see if that's it; you may want to disconnect from the internet to be safe while doing this.  If this works you could add the programs to the exceptions list.

Also not sure if the username directory is protected by Windows or not.

I can't think of anything else; I hope someone else will be able to help you as this is a great program.

[Dark_Tundra]

No problems here running Windows 7 64-bit and Stonesense.
If you have Stonesense or DF installed in C:\Program Files(x86), that may be why it's not working as this area is protected by the OS.  Try installing in a different folder.

Well. . .  so far i have tried:
turning off UAC
turning on windows XP compatibility mode

I don't have either of them installed in C:\Program Files(x86), they are both located in a downloads folder under my username at the moment.
So anyway, i have the latest DF with no tilesets or anything. Windows 7 64 bit. I7 920 Processor.  I run DF and load up my save game  (with no progress, I havent even issued any commands). I then run Stonesense, hit 'F9' and it just tells me it can't find  DF process.
Any more ideas?
Very frustrating.
This is the correct way to run Stonesense right?

I tick "run as administrator" (under compatability mode, at the bottom of the window) on both stonesense.exe and dwarfort.exe, that's what i did to get it to run on windows7.

[Greiger]

I think I recall Toady mentioning way back in 2D that it's not actually set up for dwarves to look for jobs, whenever a job is generated (say hauling a rock to a stockpile) a search floods out from the rock looking for the nearest dwarf with hauling enabled that isn't currently doing anything and then when it finds one that dwarf does the job.   That could explain why DF has to go through all the item lists, every item is determining if there is a job related to them.

Of course I also remember Toady mentioning that he taught items to know when nothing is going to happen to them any time soon as well, but I can assume stuff like seeds and food is getting checked most of the time.

[Jay]

words

Leave it to Toady to code the items to tell the creatures when to use them...

[Elvisman2001]

Ah well.
I give up.

I tried turning off firewall (only using built in Windows firewall), I tried turning off UAC, tried setting both DF and Stonesense to Admin and compatibility modes, trued turning off anti virus (Nod32), tried moving both folders to a different drive. . .  nothing works. Stonesense just can't find the DF process for whatever reason on my machine.

[Jay]

Hmm..  What version of DF are you even using?
"The latest" is a misnomer.
That could refer to 40d (the latest official version) or 40d16.

[Khalan]

As jaybud4 is suggesting, you could try a different version of DF... try Mike Mayday's DFG, it's the one I'm using so it works - http://mayday.w.staszic.waw.pl/df.php.

Also try another utility such as Visual Fortress or Khazad to see if they can access DF: http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Utilities