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[kaypy]

UPDATE!

The installer for Stonesense Granite RC2 has just been uploaded to googlecode:
http://stonesense.googlecode.com/files/stonesense_1_0_RC2.exe

Beefmo's subterranean sprites didn't quite make it into the base install this time round, but we have the support so all the variations will work if you download it from the Stonesense Content Repository:
http://dwarffortresswiki.net/index.php/Stonesense:Content_repository

A tarball and update to the OP should follow shortly.

Enjoy!

[kaypy]

SS still looks very Escher though, as shown in some of those screenies.

Maybe some kind of very slight effect that darkens area the lower they are from the top visible layer? Though I feel that would cause a lot of slowdown.

Only a little bit of a slowdown. (Guess the RC2 new feature)

[Dark_Tundra]

yeah very impressive, and it looks so good with SS! the magma caldera looks badass. if only the statues were facing the right, it'd be perfect. in fact, that could be a feature in SS. shift-click on appropriate objects to change their facing or something..

The only suggestion I can think of currently, concerning the facing direction of statues, is that they could perhaps have a preference to face towards floor tiles; or away from wall/ramp tiles?
I'm not sure of the viability of this though, it may require a level of overhead I'm not aware of.

[Khalan]

Thanks to Beefmo for the awesome sprites and the team for the new update

The depth fogging looks great!

This is with my settings at 0/0/0/255 for the fog colour and alpha:

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Setting it to white (255/255/255/255) also gives a great mist-like effect:

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[Neonivek]

I know it is a bit late to say so but the Fireman is amazing! Thumbs up!

[Greiger]

This fog effect looks pretty awesome.  Especially at big tall mountain ranges.

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Mountain Side


Cliff face


Chasm (coincidentally the center of my newest fort in construction)

[jarathor]

That's insanely awesome - The only major thing left to be done that I can see is to add texture/color to the ramps.
Great work to everyone who's a part of this.

[Thursday Postal]

Amazing! Just everything in here is amazing. And Retro, your fort looks like it was practically made for this. It looks so much like a living city, instead of the standard row of efficient blocks.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Should we take this to mean that alpha channels are working now and the alpha channel on png files will now load properly?

[KaelGotDwarves]

Posted some of those pics on /tg/ of all places, and they were really impressed, talking about how it's like DF should look canonically.

Few more graphics tiles like catapult and ballista and we're pretty much set it appears.

[jonask84]

Got the archive version of RC2 up. Also changed the poll to how do you want Stonesense distributed?


@Retro: Wow man! Wow! Those screenshots are simply gorgeous! I wanna print these and hang over my workstation. They're simply some of the best I've seen so far! Very nice hehe
And we just added Fog to the RC2 (it was supposed to be in RC1, but a bug left it out) so some depth should be possible through that.

Also, on ramps: Ramps are now configurable so if anyone's handy with ye olde ms paint; let's get started on replacing those ugly ass placeholders. (ask kaypy or me about how)

@Hal Nicholas: No, no objects yet. That's on the list for 2.0 ( Slate ).

@Haladuz: hee hee awesome tigerman Good work!


@Khalan: Nice use of the fog! maybe the default color should be changed...

@Impaler[WrG]: Sadly no... The shadows are added by shading the entire sprite using the GPU interface. It still does not support alpha channels on the pngs.

@KaelGotDwarves:

[Footkerchief]

@Impaler[WrG]: Sadly no... The shadows are added by shading the entire sprite using the GPU interface. It still does not support alpha channels on the pngs.

Is the lack of alpha support a performance thing or a just-hasn't-been-done-yet thing?

[jonask84]

It's not sure it can be done/performance thing :p

[Jay]

@Hal Nicholas: No, no objects yet. That's on the list for 2.0 ( Slate ).

So it's slated?
*rimshot*

[Footkerchief]

It's not sure it can be done/performance thing :p

Hmm... it seems strange that there would be performance problems for a mostly static scene.  Well, I could see creature alphas having performance problems, but I don't think anyone cares about those anyway.  For terrain alphas you can just cache the "top" terrain after blending the alphas, and then blit the non-alpha creature sprite on top of it, right?

e: went back and tried to reconstruct the previous alpha conversation

@CobaltKobold: we want to switch to alpha and PNG files. but it would require many more library dependencies, not good for people who want to compile.

Whether we can use Alpha Transparency vs. Dithering Transparency depends entirely on the resources required by each. I'm not quite a Competent Programmer myself, so I'll leave that to the Experts to answer... for now, Dither transparency is an easy way to implement it with the current engine, especially with a new release pending.

Currently we dont have Alpha Transparency, so Dithering Transparency is the best we have...

Also, Dithering transparency has some nice features for water: since the pixels line up perfectly, you have the effect that something is either behind water or its not. Which is less problematic than each individual block of water having its own alpha effect. (Cause different blocks will line up strangely- I should do a mockup to [a] make it obvious what I'm saying and [b] make sure I know what I'm talking about)

Post mockup revised position statement: Given alpha transparency, doing water in a simple 'draw the water sprite at ~30% alpha' should work fine- edging effects are not really noticeable against the noise of the water textures.

Evertually, we will probably get proper alpha support. Until then, its likely to be an 'every other pixel' job like the water

So, outstanding issues are 1) possible performance issues and 2) more dependencies?  Neither seems like that big of an obstacle...