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[Siquo]

Tell me that isn't stonesense and DF?

That isn't stonesense and DF.

[DwarvesH]

Tell me that isn't stonesense and DF?

That isn't stonesense and DF.

Metaphorically speaking, I can see how someone could interpret it as such. But it is not.

Here is a newer video that starts to use other graphics. The highlight is the new trees, but because the rest of plants are still from Stonesense, and so is the grass, it still looks like Stonesense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOQiQ2u73g
What do you think? Does it start to look different?

And speaking of Stonesense, I tried to compile it and I couldn't do it. In Allegro headers, I got error regarding the compilers not understanding what a "__cdecl" is. I did not have time to investigate further.

Could someone post some compilation instructions using Visual Studio Express (the free one from 2010) and Vista SDK (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=ff6467e6-5bba-4bf5-b562-9199be864d29&displaylang=en). It has been a few years since I used Visual Studio, and I am quite rusty at solving problems with the build process.

[Rose]

main instruction I can give with VS, is use the project files that are given, not Cmake.


As for allegro, that's more iffy.

[Truean]

Tell me that isn't stonesense and DF?

That isn't stonesense and DF.

I literally asked for this

Tell me that isn't stonesense and DF?

That isn't stonesense and DF.

Metaphorically speaking, I can see how someone could interpret it as such. But it is not.

Here is a newer video that starts to use other graphics. The highlight is the new trees, but because the rest of plants are still from Stonesense, and so is the grass, it still looks like Stonesense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOQiQ2u73g
What do you think? Does it start to look different?

And speaking of Stonesense, I tried to compile it and I couldn't do it. In Allegro headers, I got error regarding the compilers not understanding what a "__cdecl" is. I did not have time to investigate further.

Could someone post some compilation instructions using Visual Studio Express (the free one from 2010) and Vista SDK (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?familyid=ff6467e6-5bba-4bf5-b562-9199be864d29&displaylang=en). It has been a few years since I used Visual Studio, and I am quite rusty at solving problems with the build process.

Let me just save everyone some time, be about as polite as I'm gonna get about this and say I don't think you can convince me.

[DwarvesH]

main instruction I can give with VS, is use the project files that are given, not Cmake.


As for allegro, that's more iffy.

Could you tell me the exact versions of the tools you use. Visual Studio Express 2010 imports and converts the provided project files. Maybe it messes up something.

[Rose]

I use VS2005, but I have converted the files at one point to 2010 express without an issue. if you check back to a previous commit, you can get a 2010 project file.

[Halnoth]

Let me just save everyone some time, be about as polite as I'm gonna get about this and say I don't think you can convince me.

lol thats funny since he linked you to his youtube channel which shows him testing the gui he is developing which you linked.

[Truean]

Let me just save everyone some time, be about as polite as I'm gonna get about this and say I don't think you can convince me.

lol thats funny since he linked you to his youtube channel which shows him testing the gui he is developing which you linked.

That's funny cause there's a few points you're missing, which I made:

a.) A proof of concept that a stonesense like GUI could be technically possible.
b.) There are a whole thread full of people I linked to who felt like I did.
c.) The youtube link and thread I gave are far older than his.
He even states, "Here is a newer video that starts to use other graphics. The highlight is the new trees, but because the rest of plants are still from Stonesense, and so is the grass, it still looks like Stonesense."
This openly states he used stonesense sprites. <--- At some point it was Stonesense and therefore DF.

Now if you're quite done trying to dredge up an issue that will not be productive at all....

[DrKillPatient]

Hrm, I see in the 'if stuff's not working' portion, an Ubuntu fix. Can this work with Linux? I don't see a specific Linux version or a source to build from, though...

[Ralinth]

So I downloaded this, it didnt work. I did the fix it says in the "if this dosnt work" section, it dosnt work. Every time I have tried to run it I get an error that says "application not configured correctly, try reinstalling", so I download again and it still dosnt work. Am I just not meant to ever get to use this? Any help would be appreciated.

[peterix]

Hrm, I see in the 'if stuff's not working' portion, an Ubuntu fix. Can this work with Linux? I don't see a specific Linux version or a source to build from, though...

Yes. It can be built using CMake, if you install DFHack and allegro 5 first. Note that DFHack and stonesense can get out of sync. Send me a PM if you run into any problems. Or visit the #dfhack irc channel on freenode.

[Truean]

So I downloaded this, it didnt work. I did the fix it says in the "if this dosnt work" section, it dosnt work. Every time I have tried to run it I get an error that says "application not configured correctly, try reinstalling", so I download again and it still dosnt work. Am I just not meant to ever get to use this? Any help would be appreciated.

Have you right clicked and saved the xml file in stonesense's folder, replacing the old one? Not as readily apparent as you'd think.

[AO]

I've got some updates here.

• buildings/VerticalBars.png & buildings/VerticalBars.xml - colors of building material.
• Fluids/Fluids.xml - set up appropriate sprites for truncated water and magma.
• creatures/caravan_animals.xml - geese => goose
• buildings/HorizontalAxle.xml - postfix "st" was lost in conditions.
• Looking through the thread from the beginning, I found a couple of tiles that can be added to creatures.png:
  
  Spoiler: creatures.png (click to show/hide)

  
  Almost all by Deon, exсept Beefmo's dragon. And some issues with cropping and positioning was fixed (ogre is still cropped from the bottom, he is too big). Bat is included with beefmo_subterranean now, so here was dublicate.
• creatures/wildlife.xml - RATMAN => RODENT MAN and new ones.
• humans.png & humans.xml - individual files, updated for coloring (to replace "humies" ones). Not finished fully, but covers existing version. Children were lost by some reason earlier.
  
  Spoiler: humans.png (click to show/hide)

  
  I've tried "variations" option here for hairs, but with moving creatures it works not so good. Red thing is a plume for champions.
• I found that slightly screwed up the positioning of objects and the understanding of how the program cuts their edges last time (so, Japa, redownload images [1][2], please, sorry again). And therefore I wanted to check out basic images. Some tiles in objects.png was cropped a bit (chairs, cabinets, bed, tables), some not centered (boxes and raised bridges).
  
  Spoiler: objects.png (click to show/hide)

  
  • For the aforementioned reasons, slightly changed table legs.
  • With floor grate help grayed for recoloring cage and wall grates.
  • Added variations for archery target pillar.
  • Animal Trap - not very pretty, but the real ones looks like cages or boxes anyway.
  • Full set of trap placeholders. It's difficult to draw something like that in a single cell without overloading it with nonessential details, besides traps may interfere engravings. So... I allowed myself to finish a simple schematic versions until there is nothing better.
    When nearby is a wall spike and weapon traps draws their wall variants. Maybe it's not a good idea, because truncation doesn't affect it and fortification counts as walls. Anyway this can be purged from xmls.
• buildings/Cage.xml
  buildings/Kennels.xml
  buildings/WallGrate.xml
  buildings/Target.xml
  buildings/Spikes.xml
  buildings/CageTrap.xml
  buildings/WeaponTrap.xml
  buildings/StonefallTrap.xml
  buildings/AnimalTrap.xml
  Just updated xmls, coloring and new tiles and variants.

And a pair of issues (maybe too early, while contaminations not fully released).
Troll blood is displayed red (in game it's light-blue), while human blood is black (at arena at least), ichor is white as it should be.
Is it real to make visible contamination on the walls at now?
Zones and stockpiles when hidden also hide all grass on their tiles (blood is not affected), looks quite reasonable if reversed.

[Rose]

At the moment, there's no real way to set blood color. I had some hardcoded values, but now they're messed up, and there's probably some other poor animal with blue blood now.

I'll put these into the next version, whenver that is...

[DrKillPatient]

I'm getting 'cannot load image: stonesense.png' when I open it on Linux. I have libpng and allegro, do I need to set it to look elsewhere for that PNG? It's in the same folder.