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[jonask84]

Stealing money? Please. If anything, you're making DF accessible to people that would never play it otherwise.

So you're saying that the distributors of food throughout the world should get all the customers' money whilst the manufacturer gets nothing?

That's a terrible analogy.  It's more like distributors are giving away food that they got from Kellogg and telling everyone they give food to: "Kellogg graciously donated this food, please donate to Kellogg."

No, thats what Stonesense SHOULD be doing - That message and/or donate button isn't anywhere to be seen on the Stonesense splash screen AFAIK.

I think we've made our stand on this clear many times over, but it doesn't hurt to clear the air

We are never going to ask for donations, nor are we going to tell people to "go donate to DF because Toady is awesome ^.^". IMHO such a label would seem a little childish, people who play DF knows perfectly well how and where to donate. And if anyone feels it should be made clearer, then I suggest they direct that request to Toady.

You see, the way it works today, Toady's the one who sets the pace for how hard he wants to push donations. I feel it would be in bad taste if we pressured people or even voiced an opinion on the matter.

The Stonesense splash screen will contain credits to the people who contribute to the project, clean and simple.

Cheers guys

[strich]

Yeah I understand where you are coming from, and agree with that. Personally I have a more active stance on it - I would actively place a donation advertisement. But that's my opinion and this isn't my application so I'll stop pushing it and let us get back to the Stonesensing talk.

[devek]

I'm not a lawyer, but I would say that would be a mistake.

The best thing to do, is nothing lol. You're not affiliated with bay12games.

[Retro]

Good to see you're still around, jonask, busy or not

[Dark_Tundra]

Any way to overwrite water appearance based on tile contents? Even something like the snow/mud min/max could be workable (hopefully)...
To be more precise, rivers have flow directions, and tobias did some brook tiles a number of pages back, and I can't seem to find a way to integrate these.

Also, are animated terrain tiles possible? If so what might I be doing wrong?

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

needwall is in preemtively for the new release,

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<!-- glowing pit -->
<floor sprite="6" outline="0" needwall="82" frames="0">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="7" outline="0" needwall="2" frames="0">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="8" outline="0" needwall="8" frames="0">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="9" outline="0" frames="0">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="10" outline="0" needwall="82" frames="15">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="11" outline="0" needwall="2" frames="15">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="12" outline="0" needwall="8" frames="15">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="13" outline="0" frames="15">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="26" outline="0" needwall="82" frames="24">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="27" outline="0" needwall="2" frames="24">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="28" outline="0" needwall="8" frames="24">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="29" outline="0" frames="24">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="30" outline="0" needwall="82" frames="3">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="31" outline="0" needwall="2" frames="3">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="32" outline="0" needwall="8" frames="3">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>
<floor sprite="33" outline="0" frames="3">
    <terrain value="42" />
    <terrain value="42" />
  </floor>

[Rose]

animated frames are also pre-emptive for the new release

as for water, that's going in the release after this one.

[Dark_Tundra]

I see, thanks. I was getting further ahead of myself than I thought.

[Raziel_Blaze]

A crazy idea. Could Stonesense -send- keyboard and mouse events to Dwarf Fortress? If it could, it could serve as a general graphical wrapper for it.

To summarize about half of this entire thread: 1. yes, it hypothetically could; 2. no, this will not happen.

mouse input = http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=62301.0

[Zenatsu]

255 pages... Not sure if this question has been answered, but whenever i start stonesence, the GUI window flickers between the welcomeing page and "Connecting to Dwarf Fortress" very quickly.

I checked the log and all it did was repeat

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No Dwarf Fortress executable found
DFhack exeption: couldn't find a suitable process
Currently I am running the latest DF release, 0.31.12

I am to assume this is the cause, but the OP says it should support it.

Note: Stonesense Slate is only compatible with the 2010 versions of DF, that is 31.x.

[jonask84]

Good to see you're still around, jonask, busy or not

Thanks Retro Yeah I'm here heh, and I keep in regular (almost daily) contact with Japa, he's the one who's doing the active development these days you know. So I like to think we're on top of this hehe
Been pretty busy though, but seems like some details are emerging: If all goes well I might be moving to California by the end of the year for a new job. Pretty happy about that. We'll see

I'll keep lurking


Edit:
@Zenatsu: Have you checked you have the latest version of the Memory.xml file? The official release of Stonesens Slate is not compatible with 31.12 yet, but you can just drop in an updated Memory.xml to make it compatible. This will be fixed shortly with the new release.

[Zenatsu]

No, Nor do I know what or where to find said file to update it with. (I know where it is in the stonesense folder, but not where to find an update :/)

[jonask84]

No, Nor do I know what or where to find said file to update it with. (I know where it is in the stonesense folder, but not where to find an update :/)

You can grab the latest version right here, this is a direct link to whichever Memory.xml file that is at any time in use in the Stonesense project trunk.

I'm going to update the OP with this link too, hopefully save some people some confusion.

[Zenatsu]

Success! thanks a lot for the help Jonask!

[Andir]

That info was also available... just 4 pages back.  FYI

[jonask84]

That info was also available... just 4 pages back.  FYI

Sure, but it's really my fault. I should have put this in the OP a long time ago.