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[CobaltKobold]

FKC: Yes. I'm disputing his "no way I would have known it was there".

...In retrospect, that's a 'would' not a 'could'.

[Kaelem Gaen]

I'll be honest Stonesense is how I found my elusive Magma pipe on my fortress I recently had to reclaim,  I think I used finder but it was below the surface and I never found it, I did see "Fire Imp" and "Magma Man" in the wild animals but I don't think it lets you zoom to them.

(I had built on the complete opposite side of the map from where the magma was.)

Eitherway I still love Stonesense, it's fun to use in Adventure mode.

[Innominate]

I assume DFHack has access to the "hidden" flag for tiles? I don't recall if Visual Fortress uses DFHack, but I know it has functionality to not show hidden tiles. In any case, it's a pretty simple thing to add if you know where it's stored in memory. Although it does leave a hanging question about implementation: what goes in the blank spaces?

I suggest we follow DF's own route and have simple black squares. In terms of memory usage, a single bit colour depth is the best you can get pretty much, and you would only have to store one square in total.

A number of questions on implementation (I guess I could search the source for myself and find out, but anyway - feel free to ignore the wall of text): what level of caching does Stonesense use? As I see it, you can either cache all images necessary to render the displayed area of the fortress, or you can cache the images for the entire fortress - the latter has a bigger memory footprint but makes switching between levels and scrolling around faster. Does Stonesense cache only the images it needs, or does it cache (say) all the images relating to a certain material? Are all displayed tiles cached, or only those that recur many times in the one display? What about tiles that are within the area to be displayed but occluded by other tiles?

Now it's probably too much to ask, but would it be possible in the future to force Stonesense to use a specific level of caching? So if somebody had severe memory constraints or, conversely, an overabundance of memory, they could instruct Stonesense to cache more or fewer images? Obviously not important right now, but perhaps something to think about.

[mizipzor]

I assume DFHack has access to the "hidden" flag for tiles? [...]

Indeed it has, its that bit thats set in the reveal tool/example.

[Retro]

Also, for your viewing pleasure, I give you: WATER v3.0 - The Hydrating

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It's broken up into floor tiles and a block tile now, and has been given different surface textures so that you can recognize when the camera is under water as opposed to at the surface.

Gorgeous. High fives all around for Solifuge.

[kaypy]

So, I hope i'm not sounding dumb here, but i've noticed that SS displays magma when there's no way I would have known it was there. This feels a little cheaty... is there any way to turn this off?
(i'm using the d18 compiled version that was linked in this thread a few pages back)

Going back and looking at the actual behaviour of an unrevealed HFS in stonesense, this is absolutely 100% a bug.

Thanks for pointing that out jugglervr

Edit: OK, now fixed on the trunk

[Octopusfluff]

It's broken up into floor tiles and a block tile now, and has been given different surface textures so that you can recognize when the camera is under water as opposed to at the surface.

Any chance of another texture that can distinguish shoals from normal water?

[Footkerchief]

Any chance of another texture that can distinguish shoals from normal water?

Shoals as in brook tiles?

[NathanL]

I've played DF on and off for a while.

I just tried stonesense and keep getting the error "Could not find DF process" every time I try and start it.

I start DF, load up my fortress, start up stonesense and at the title screen press F9 followed by the above error everytime. I've tried restarting both DF and stonesense and each time the same error.

My process running DF is "dwarfort.exe" is that correct? Any other ideas?

[dennislp3]

I've played DF on and off for a while.

I just tried stonesense and keep getting the error "Could not find DF process" every time I try and start it.

I start DF, load up my fortress, start up stonesense and at the title screen press F9 followed by the above error everytime. I've tried restarting both DF and stonesense and each time the same error.

My process running DF is "dwarfort.exe" is that correct? Any other ideas?

Chances are you are using a version that is not compatible with stonesense. It currently only supports 40d16

[NathanL]

That's it thanks. I'm running 40d18.

[kaypy]

That's it thanks. I'm running 40d18.

There is d18 support if you either compile your own version from the trunk or grab peterix's unofficial build from a few pages back

[Octopusfluff]

Any chance of another texture that can distinguish shoals from normal water?

Shoals as in brook tiles?

Sorry, yes, that's what I meant. I don't know where I got shoals from.

[Impaler[WrG]]

Given the way DF represents a Brook and the new system (very nice btw) I'd imagine the best representation method would be to have an opaque but clearly wet 'river stones' conglomerate kind of bottom piece with a standard water 'top' put on that.  You'd be able to see through the top to the opaque tile below and know its a brook and not a regular river and see the river stones directly when viewing that level.

[Jadael]

Just throwing in the soil wall tile topped a watery floor would work fine, I think.