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[belannaer]

it's also not hard to have entireley different sprites per profession, but that means more drawing.

Since you can construct everything from layers now it is not that hard to make every profession have unique look with fairly little work. I have basic model with skin, hair and clothes that get colour and on top of that I lay layers with weapons, additional clothes etc. and on top of that I lay some more coloured layers if for example the hand positions change. It's not that much more drawing really but the xml file becomes MASSIVE, especially with both sexes. I'm also wondering if it will impact performance if every profession has like 5-10 sublayers.

And because picture speaks more than words here is what I do with my dwarves:


Top row is male dwarves, second row is females, third is gear for masons etc, fourth is woodcutters etc.

[krenshala]

You could save a bit and do one face layer, one hair layer, and an optional facial hair layer.  Since they look the same a single body layer would work as well.  Doing that would take you from 8 "peices" to 5 (only looking at the top two rows).  4 for a basic dwarf, +1 for beard (and perhaps one more for that beard overlay).

[CobaltKobold]

it's also not hard to have entireley different sprites per profession, but that means more drawing.

Since you can construct everything from layers now it is not that hard to make every profession have unique look with fairly little work. I have basic model with skin, hair and clothes that get colour and on top of that I lay layers with weapons, additional clothes etc. and on top of that I lay some more coloured layers if for example the hand positions change. It's not that much more drawing really but the xml file becomes MASSIVE, especially with both sexes. I'm also wondering if it will impact performance if every profession has like 5-10 sublayers.

And because picture speaks more than words here is what I do with my dwarves:


Top row is male dwarves, second row is females, third is gear for masons etc, fourth is woodcutters etc.

demopic.

cough. Ignoring for the moment that I am not the best of sprite artists.

Certainly makes creating the sprites easy. <3 layers.

[jonask84]

Guys (and gals. (I've learned)), this is looking really promising. We can't wait to see what you come up with

[Rose]

There is also a distinct possibility of getting the materials for clothes.

[belannaer]

There is also a distinct possibility of getting the materials for clothes.

If there is going to be a support for materials in code can the xml handle if cases? IF METAL use sublayer ELSE use this sublayer etc.

[Rose]

it's possible. we'd have to see how well the system works.

[Azkanan]

Ugh... Doesn't work with 3112. For me, at least. Anybody else able to run with 3112? =|

[Rose]

we're getting there.

right now, we've managed to get everything but creatures to wrk. we'll release when they do.

[Azkanan]

I meant that it doesn't connect... Including with the memory.xml. Ah well, I'll quit bothering ye and get back to farming goblins.

[lazylonelion]

It doesn't even start on my WinXP Pro
And -- yes, I'm waiting for it too.

P.S. Used it with 40d last time

[Sergius]

TLDR thread... so, here's a question:

Is there a way to make ramps appear "smooth" if they're "anchored" to a smoothed wall? Like, it can be altered in the Stonesense raws or does that have to be modified at the source code level.

[Rose]

as far as I know, no, it would require sourcecode changes, as ramps in DF cannot actually be smoothed, so the surrounding tiles would need to be checked for smoothness, and overall, it's a huge can of worms.

[lordnincompoop]

Would be nice though.

[Sergius]

as far as I know, no, it would require sourcecode changes, as ramps in DF cannot actually be smoothed, so the surrounding tiles would need to be checked for smoothness, and overall, it's a huge can of worms.

Well, the program already checks around every ramp to see if there are walls to determine the ramp orientation, so it's probably a much smaller can of worms...