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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 10107202 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #122715 on: January 18, 2025, 08:45:31 am »

I'm not sad for Lynch. Maybe a bit melancholy. He seemed like a guy who lived a complete life, cared for people he knew, and otherwise didn't give a fuck about the world. His was a good run.
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« Reply #122716 on: January 18, 2025, 01:07:44 pm »

Tomorrow the razzias will start in Chicago. I hope many of you are brave enough to do for illegal aliens as we did for the jews in WW2. Give them shelter in your homes. Hide them from authorities. (Actually, I hope you are even more brave. Way too little people had the bravery here. Over 90% of the dutch jew population was rounded up, put in cattle wagons and sent to Auschwitz).

Keep your eyes open. Many of the illegal aliens Trump wants to deport cannot be deported because their countries of origin won't take them back. Be watchful. Keep an eye on them. Make sure the Trump government doesn't make them 'disappear'.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #122717 on: January 18, 2025, 03:49:30 pm »

What does the loss of TikTok (I presume that's the trigger on the 19th, rather than the other event happening on the 20th?) have to do with Chicago?

While I was on my trip, I was in a restaurant one night and overheard some guy excited that he has plans to attend the inauguration and even said "I can't wait for Trump to make things better." I was one failed will roll away from trying to understand what he thought was going to get better.

Incidentally does anyone else see the irony in the 20th also being MLK day?

EDIT: fixed missing end of first sentence.
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« Reply #122718 on: January 18, 2025, 04:58:32 pm »

I can't think of politics today without getting physically ill.

Even just seeing Elon, who's not even a politician, just a rich bastard, do stupid shit like pretending to be a gamer, just reinforces how fucking stupid the upper echelons are. If he wanted people to like him, the answer is right in front of him: He could be the greatest philanthropist to ever live! But he doesn't actually care about other people, no billionaire fuck does.
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« Reply #122719 on: January 19, 2025, 05:52:39 pm »

What does the loss of TikTok (I presume that's the trigger on the 19th, rather than the other event happening on the 20th?) have to do with Chicago?

I'm pretty sure martinuzz is talking about the ICE mass deportation raids
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« Reply #122720 on: January 19, 2025, 06:10:14 pm »

I was just being facetious; TikTok legislation takes was supposed to take effect on Jan 19; Trump isn't in office (officially) until the 20th, so I wasn't sure how the raids would start on the 19th.

Although apparently Trump doesn't really care about laws, and nobody's punishing him for it, so I guess those (the raids) starting early wouldn't be too surprising.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #122721 on: January 20, 2025, 12:52:59 am »

My bad I typed tomorrow where i had to type tuesday. Yes, I meant the ICE raids.
Latest news is they might be cancelled. Be watchful.
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« Reply #122722 on: January 20, 2025, 03:22:00 am »

At this point would you even want the insurance. From what I've seen a ton of folks had their fire insurance dropped just as the fires were starting, so why the fuck would you even want to pay all that money only for the company to go 'lolnope' at the exact time you would need it. That really should be some sort of criminal charge trigger to shut down and jail the lot of the scumbags.

Just how broken does a system need to be where that shit that would be considered a grift by any sane person is not only apparently completely legal but also extremely effective at making the rich fucks even richer.

In some cases you don't have a choice, there's being a growing problem I've seen where housing is built on flood plains because population growth. Houses should never have been built there but people need to live somewhere.

These days insurance companies say they won't insure it for any amount, the risk factor is just too high. Issue is the banks won't issue a loan without insurance, there are a growing number of unsellable/un-buyable houses on areas due to the insurance game.
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« Reply #122723 on: January 20, 2025, 03:48:10 am »

Oxfam Novib reports that in the past year, the richest people on the planet increased their wealth by 2000000000000 dollars. (Those are 12 zeros, yes).
Per day, the 10 richest persons each gained over 100 milllion dollars.

Meanwhile, half of the world's population earns less than 6,85 dollars per day, the global poverty line.
(Make those numbers sink in. 4 billion people only have 2500 dollars per year, while 10 people have at least 100 million per year)

Oxfam calls it a grim wake-up call, and warn about the worrisome concentration of political and corporate power in the new Trump government.

The difference between the rich and the poor nowadays is at least a factor 10 greater than that at the time of the French revolution.
I wonder how a guillotine to the power of 10 looks like.

EDIT: the number of billionaires worldwide increased by 204, to 2769.

Can we not just make a new global rule? If you manage to accumulate 100 million dollars, you get a unique hat woven from the hairs of children that died of hunger, but any money that would bring your wealth over 100 million dollars will be fully taxed and donated to World Food programs. Think long term! When there is no more hunger, your hat's value will increase!
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« Reply #122724 on: January 20, 2025, 08:06:45 am »

$100M should indeed be enough. Something like a mere $14M is already around 200 years of average income (at $70k/year).

It's really ridiculous how much wealth and power a billion dollars represents, let alone these people that control tens or hundreds of billion dollars. Literally millions of years of income.
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« Reply #122725 on: January 20, 2025, 08:47:38 am »

Yes 100M is being extremely generous. 10M is more reasonable, that is enough for a lifetime in comfort.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #122726 on: January 20, 2025, 01:31:56 pm »

It just seems so absurd how much power wealth consolidation has landed in the hands of completely unaccountable few. It seems a bit daft that we have spent centuries killing millions debating over the constitutional powers of politicians and princes only to allow the creation of a society where an individual's chances for subsistence and happines are licensed by billionaires

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« Reply #122727 on: January 21, 2025, 04:28:13 pm »

Well hey Bay12. It's been a minute.

I've been having a hard time lately conceptualizing... well, time. I'm in my last year of undergrad. I don't know if I'll be able to graduate this semester. I've been single for a few months now. I can't really imagine what another relationship might look like. I've lived in New England for most of my life. I don't know if the US will be worth building a life in. I can hold a few hours in my brain at a time, maybe a few days. Weeks, months, and years elude me.

I'm very tired, and I don't know what's next.
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« Reply #122728 on: January 24, 2025, 01:34:46 am »

I watched the first season of Bojack, and then thought "Man that was pretty good, how much longer is it?" and was stunned to see there were FIVE more seasons. I thought that was a serious turnoff, how much content could they possibly squeeze out of this neurotic Horseman?

I don't know, I'm just not enjoying things very much recently. Maybe I'm getting depressed, maybe it's Choice Paralysis, maybe it's ADHD-like symptoms from the constant stimulation of media, maybe I'm just getting old and curmudgeony and can't help but see the flaws in everything. Whatever it is, it makes me really dread my own free time; atleast when I'm working I can singlemindedly focus on my task; when I'm not obligated to do anything, I just want to turn into inert sludge and stop thinking. That's not the way to claw my way out of unhappiness, but I guess I'm at peace with the fact that I'll just be unhappy forever.

Season 2 of Bojack is when the show really begins in my opinion and the events that happen in it are what the rest of the story end up revolving around. It genuinely does turn into a masterpiece of animated storytelling near the end. It amazes me that people were allowed to make a show like this.

If you feel like you need encouragement, just watch the first episode of season 2. It starts off strong. I feel like you in particular would like it.
Also the first season was done as a bit of a joke, I read. Make it seem like a standard kooky adult show then transition into the more serious, hard-hitting-but-still-comedic show it actually is. And they regretted running the joke for so many episodes.

It also gives us this:

"Has the concept of women having choices gone too far? We've arranged this diverse panel of white men in bow ties to discuss. Gentlemen?"

I finally finished watching Bojack Horseman, and yeah, I can see why it's a "masterpiece of animated storytelling". It's one of those shows where it really tries to write the characters as just people (or... animal-people); they're not heroes, or villains, they're just flawed individuals each with their own history and carrying around their own baggage. Except for White Whale, he's a villain, all the way through. But what I'm trying to say is, no character seems bound to any narratively coherent arc, they're just people each trying to make the best out of their own situation. That makes the show consistently surprising, because people are often surprising, while narrative tropes often aren't.

I do wind up feeling a little robbed at the end, because while the narrative tropes aren't constraining the characters, it also means that there's no big climaxes, or satisfying closure for many of the show's characters and side-stories. The best you'll get is that the characters at the end of the show, compared to the beginning of the show, have grown just a little, or advanced towards their self-actualization just a little. Not a lot, just a little. That's all you get. it's very bittersweet, and a little hopeful.

I do really love how the show loves its continuity, it's referencing things from the first season all the way in the last season, but you can tell near the end that the writers are getting picky about what things to leave in (because they contribute to the story) and what to leave out (because they were broader criticisms on capitalism or American culture, and they can't contribute to the story without getting their own show. Sorry Becca.)

As far as comedy goes, it actually scored some laughs out of me. "American-style Adult Animation" usually smacks of poor taste and poorer writing, but not Bojack. Sometimes it's just one joke in an episode that gets me, but it'll be a really good joke. Most shows can't manage even one good joke.

I don't want to write at length about the message of the show, but I do really appreciate how the social commentary of the show takes a backseat to the interpersonal drama of the characters. Aggretsuko, or Hello Kitty's take on an 'adult cartoon', fucks up the balance between 'social commentary' and 'interpersonal drama', and the later seasons suffer badly because the show wants so badly to be a social commentary that the characters and the drama take a backseat to it. The writers finally have a soapbox to stand on and they can't resist the temptation scream at the audience about their grievances with Japanese society; at the cost of the show's main draw: the characters and their drama. Bojack doesn't fuck that up though, it'll gladly burn an episode to watch a character literally monologue about their feelings for the episode's entire length.

So yeah, thanks for turning me back onto the show. It was a good ride. You can tell the people making it really took it seriously: they had a story to tell, and they told it.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #122729 on: January 24, 2025, 01:16:34 pm »

Well hey Bay12. It's been a minute.

I've been having a hard time lately conceptualizing... well, time. I'm in my last year of undergrad. I don't know if I'll be able to graduate this semester. I've been single for a few months now. I can't really imagine what another relationship might look like. I've lived in New England for most of my life. I don't know if the US will be worth building a life in. I can hold a few hours in my brain at a time, maybe a few days. Weeks, months, and years elude me.

I'm very tired, and I don't know what's next.
I hope you can get some quiet downtime to just rest and think things through. Lord knows life moves by too quickly, too demanding, for too many
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