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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9519789 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118545 on: July 09, 2020, 10:16:59 pm »

Biases of what/how it learns, more like, as people probably won't be building an AI's psychology piece by piece, idea by idea, in the same sense as you might build a machine - rule-based AI approach plunged around the time of the AI Winter. As a pale example see neural networks, obviously not a full AI or even close but they show that's the type of approach being gravitated towards.

NG, you would probably like the book Superintelligence by Nick Bostrom (about how to contain a superintelligence suspected of being harmful) and Godel, Escher, Bach by Douglas Hofstadter.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118546 on: July 09, 2020, 10:22:40 pm »

Well maybe the system's source of bias varies depending on the design. I assume that a quantum computer would work differently from a neural network, a rectal computing rig, or a beowulf cluster
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118547 on: July 09, 2020, 11:27:59 pm »

Anarchism just... doesn't seem like an ideal society to me. It doesn't matter what kind, it doesn't attract to me or something. My ideal society is much more moderate than that, a social-libertarian (not libertarian socialist) democracy. Hierarchy is still required for modern society to function, but it doesn't need to be a very strong one.
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« Reply #118548 on: July 10, 2020, 12:04:46 am »

Well maybe the system's source of bias varies depending on the design. I assume that a quantum computer would work differently from a neural network, a rectal computing rig, or a beowulf cluster

Neural networks are a software thing, not hardware.
Hardware doesn't determine all of intelligence or behavior. Those are patterns. Software, metaphorically and literally speaking.
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« Reply #118549 on: July 10, 2020, 12:06:18 am »

Physical artificial neural networks, hardware, are a thing.
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« Reply #118550 on: July 10, 2020, 12:17:02 am »

If a person were to train themselves to not fear spiders, thst they’ve feared for most of their life, would that be similar to if an AI edits its code to get rid of a bug?

No, it's just the equivalent of adjusting parameters by adding new data where spiders don't result in a negative outcome, shifting bias away from spiders being bad.

Editing code would be having brain surgery that removes the fear response.
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« Reply #118551 on: July 10, 2020, 03:05:12 am »

Well maybe the system's source of bias varies depending on the design. I assume that a quantum computer would work differently from a neural network, a rectal computing rig, or a beowulf cluster

Neural networks are a software thing, not hardware.
Hardware doesn't determine all of intelligence or behavior. Those are patterns. Software, metaphorically and literally speaking.
I'm going to confess: I threw random thing in a post in hopes anyone asked what a rectal computing rig was
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118552 on: July 10, 2020, 03:41:24 am »

We all know what it is ;)
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118553 on: July 10, 2020, 06:33:35 am »

And thats your sad of the day Poo, we know. :p
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #118554 on: July 10, 2020, 07:21:52 am »

Anarchism just... doesn't seem like an ideal society to me. It doesn't matter what kind, it doesn't attract to me or something. My ideal society is much more moderate than that, a social-libertarian (not libertarian socialist) democracy. Hierarchy is still required for modern society to function, but it doesn't need to be a very strong one.

Time for post-modern society then. B)

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« Reply #118555 on: July 10, 2020, 07:46:38 am »

Well maybe the system's source of bias varies depending on the design. I assume that a quantum computer would work differently from a neural network, a rectal computing rig, or a beowulf cluster

Neural networks are a software thing, not hardware.
Hardware doesn't determine all of intelligence or behavior. Those are patterns. Software, metaphorically and literally speaking.
I'm going to confess: I threw random thing in a post in hopes anyone asked what a rectal computing rig was

Sadly I seem to have missed this, but to my knowledge, there really is rectal computing-- of a sort.
Bluetooth connected buttplug? Exists. Technically a computer, because it has to run a bluetooth stack to integrate with a smartphone.

We invented rectal computing.

Consider that.

(Now my mind is all abuzz with how to utilize the microflora of the GI tract, along with some kind of refillable cartridge, to function as a biologically operated power cell for extremely low power consumption microprocessing, and somehow integrate this with other wearable computing technology (and healthcare for monitoring of metabolic products of the wearer, such as with medication metabolism, due to this being a mucous membrane) so that we can transform rectal computing from being purely a sex toy, into a legit medical and computational hardware platform. Just because.)
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« Reply #118556 on: July 10, 2020, 07:53:30 am »

(Now my mind is all abuzz with how to utilize the microflora of the GI tract, along with some kind of refillable cartridge, to function as a biologically operated power cell for extremely low power consumption microprocessing, and somehow integrate this with other wearable computing technology (and healthcare for monitoring of metabolic products of the wearer, such as with medication metabolism, due to this being a mucous membrane) so that we can transform rectal computing from being purely a sex toy, into a legit medical and computational hardware platform. Just because.)

Binary aroused screamingstreaming.

Next step, nuclear powered full AI controlled dildos.
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« Reply #118557 on: July 10, 2020, 07:58:25 am »

ER staff: What's bothering you?

Me: I think my butt plug has had a Chernobyl level meltdown.

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« Reply #118558 on: July 10, 2020, 07:58:53 am »

If that arm is rectal-computing controlled, he must have some really powerful muscles! (snicker)

As for nuclear powered... There are at least 2 options that could work in that form factor with modern ultra-low-power computing.

1) Very tiny RTG. They used to make these for use in pace makers. Dunno about today. If you can get enough current for cardiac muscle stimulation, you can get enough for ultra-low-power circuitry.

2) Beta-voltaic battery (and variants, like Beta-Photovoltaic, which is a beta emitter coated in a fluorescent material, sandwiched up against a photovoltaic cell-- which should last a lot longer than the betavoltaic cell, because it does not have high energy electrons getting directly hammered through its semiconductor junctions. Just photons of a known wavelength, emitted from the fluorescent material.)

If you could somehow get past the atomic energy commission, and the NIMBY-ness of the whole idea, one could very easily produce a nuclear powered dildo, and have it be reasonably safe.
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« Reply #118559 on: July 10, 2020, 09:01:13 am »

It was a plug for a famos video by greasytales on youtube 🤣🤣
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