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[TD1]

We need more immigrants with twirly moustaches to fix the situation.

[Trekkin]

I love hearing a point made intelligently and concisely.

I don't. In my experience, anything that fits into a concise summary with room left over for wit has been simplified beyond all real utility. I'll take error bars over bon mots any day.

[martinuzz]

I can never forget the culture shock I got when I went to Madrid.

Over here, if someone accidentally hits a bumper of another car while parking, people will scream and demand insurance papers and reimbursement.

In Madrid, it's normal for people to purposedly 'kiss' the bumpers of the cars in front and behind when parking in line, as a sign of affection, and no one thinks it's a problem to have some scratches on the bumper.

I have a feeling someone told you that just so you don't get angry at them for accidentally hitting your bumper...

Nah, the people we were staying with did that every time they parked and I never saw someone blink an eye or get mad once.

[hector13]

Well Spaniards (yes I’ll condense the various cultures on the Iberian peninsula into one word) sleep in the middle of the day and go back to work after. Weirdos.

Probably be worse that I’m condensing it all into one thing then saying it’s weird ‘cause it’s not what the people I grew around did. Weird being synonymous with bad in this instance, apparently.

Oh well. Sorry.

[SalmonGod]

I love hearing a point made intelligently and concisely.

I don't. In my experience, anything that fits into a concise summary with room left over for wit has been simplified beyond all real utility. I'll take error bars over bon mots any day.

While often true, there's also merit in the notion "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."

[redwallzyl]

I love hearing a point made intelligently and concisely.

I don't. In my experience, anything that fits into a concise summary with room left over for wit has been simplified beyond all real utility. I'll take error bars over bon mots any day.

While often true, there's also merit in the notion "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."

Some things are really hard to explain. There is a reason experts are experts. And often advanced concepts require certain prerequisite understandings.

[Rose]

Well Spaniards (yes I’ll condense the various cultures on the Iberian peninsula into one word) sleep in the middle of the day and go back to work after. Weirdos.

Probably be worse that I’m condensing it all into one thing then saying it’s weird ‘cause it’s not what the people I grew around did. Weird being synonymous with bad in this instance, apparently.

Oh well. Sorry.

So Spaniards are Europe's Bengalis?

[redwallzyl]

Well Spaniards (yes I’ll condense the various cultures on the Iberian peninsula into one word) sleep in the middle of the day and go back to work after. Weirdos.

Probably be worse that I’m condensing it all into one thing then saying it’s weird ‘cause it’s not what the people I grew around did. Weird being synonymous with bad in this instance, apparently.

Oh well. Sorry.

So Spaniards are Europe's Bengalis?

Its not that strange. Who wants to work at the hottest time of the day?

[Trekkin]

I love hearing a point made intelligently and concisely.

I don't. In my experience, anything that fits into a concise summary with room left over for wit has been simplified beyond all real utility. I'll take error bars over bon mots any day.

While often true, there's also merit in the notion "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."

Some things are really hard to explain. There is a reason experts are experts. And often advanced concepts require certain prerequisite understandings.

And, more perfidious yet, an incomplete understanding can still make perfect sense of an incomplete dataset and be all the more beguiling for its simplicity. That is why I distrust the concise and intelligent points: the notion that everything we don't already grasp is an irrelevant and piddling detail beneath our exalted executive notice is to some degree self-reinforcing, and so we come up with pithy sayings like "If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough" (EDIT: and endorse them as axiomatically true) to defend our preference for pithy sayings. That's a dangerous feedback loop.

[SalmonGod]

Or.... laymen don't need to understand all the working details of a thing in order to have a concept conveyed to them well enough that they can be enabled to make responsible value judgments.

Not saying that buzz words and catchy slogans aren't abused often.  But their danger is in a lack of critical thinking by the audience, not succinctness itself.  Reality is it's just impossible to educate everyone on everything, and that won't change until we find a way to download knowledge directly into the brain.  So skillful use of brevity will be your ally for the foreseeable future. 

Edit:  Put another way... The science involved in developing climate science models is arduous, but the basic concepts of the models that have been developed are fairly easy to summarize.  I would much rather people be open to hearing those summaries and making political decisions based on them, then insisting that they cannot be convinced climate change is real until they become climate scientists themselves.

[misko27]

The Nietzsche is strong in this one.

Experts are experts, and people would be better off if they could simply remember that.

That said, I wanted to disagree with one of you, and in an effort to do that I read both of your comments, and upon reading them in detail I realized that I'm not actually clear whether you two are disagreeing with each other. So certainly, conciseness of language (if not information) is a pure virtue, as long as you wish to be understood.

[Tiruin]

Hello to finding myself a ton concerned about my country because in minor parts--one bill of anti-discrimination is in the Senate right now, and despite being passed by Congress unanimously, there are ideas of it going down in Senate because of dumb stuff.

Months before, there were articles like these eschewing reality for rigid perspective, having a note of LGBT+ people being 'already very successful' (and yet only in categories where it was socially 'accepted') which has no bearing on the context and is just a base comparison, and many other things--just one of the many parts of me worried about my country; so many worries without placement or context because of the perspective of being divided (and being a minority in comparison; none of the content of the bill affects the majority other than 'please don't discriminate on these contexts'), especially since the bill was made by one of our own congresswomen with a lived experience of these discriminations that many articles expounding on the negatives didn't even touch the context of. There is no seperation of church and state in considering this; there's a heavy narrow religious bias stemming against this.

Really wish many people would pull their perspectives above these petty little things as if they represented more by biting the small details as if they were the large picture.

[ChairmanPoo]

Well Spaniards (yes I’ll condense the various cultures on the Iberian peninsula into one word) sleep in the middle of the day and go back to work after. Weirdos.

Probably be worse that I’m condensing it all into one thing then saying it’s weird ‘cause it’s not what the people I grew around did. Weird being synonymous with bad in this instance, apparently.

Oh well. Sorry.

...I think I'm just going to assume Poe's law (?).   

[dragdeler]

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[hector13]

Well Spaniards (yes I’ll condense the various cultures on the Iberian peninsula into one word) sleep in the middle of the day and go back to work after. Weirdos.

Probably be worse that I’m condensing it all into one thing then saying it’s weird ‘cause it’s not what the people I grew around did. Weird being synonymous with bad in this instance, apparently.

Oh well. Sorry.

...I think I'm just going to assume Poe's law (?).

The first paragraph was facetious. The rest was fatigue and drug-induced anxiety.