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[Helgoland]

By the way, something I'm interesting in knowing about, how do the veggies of bay12 feel about insects as a food source?

I'm a vegetarian out of taste/pleasure/habit, so I probably wouldn't go for it.

Do you know those crab chips Chinese places often have? Those are made from actual ground-up crabs, which should be fairly similar to being made from ground-up insects disgust-wise. I reckon if folks eat something like crab chips, you can get them to eat insects if you go about it the right way.

[martinuzz]

If you can stand cooking with trassi (rotten (or sun fermented, if you insist on euphemisms) shrimp and krill paste), like half the world population does, ground up insects should be no problem.
I'd try insects, no problem. If only they were affordable. The supermarkets expirimenting with them over here have them priced as luxury treats. Not gonna pay 6 or 7 euros for 100 grammes of beetle larvae.

Hint: don't sniff the trassi, just cook with it.
The wiki page on it is incomplete. It forgets to mention that (West-) african countries and former dutch caribbean and soutamerican colonies (Surinam) use it extensively as well, due to the Dutch introducing it to them from Indonesia. I don't think I'm far off when I said hat half the world eats it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_paste

[Lord_lemonpie]

If you can stand cooking with trassi (rotten (or sun fermented, if you insist on euphemisms) shrimp and krill paste), like half the world population does, ground up insects should be no problem.
I'd try insects, no problem. If only they were affordable. The supermarkets expirimenting with them over here have them priced as luxury treats. Not gonna pay 6 or 7 euros for 100 grammes of beetle larvae.

Hint: don't sniff the trassi, just cook with it.
The wiki page on it is incomplete. It forgets to mention that (West-) african countries and former dutch caribbean and soutamerican colonies (Surinam) use it extensively as well, due to the Dutch introducing it to them from Indonesia. I don't think I'm far off when I said hat half the world eats it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_paste

Do you often cook with trassi?
Because even though I'm Dutch I've never even heard of the stuff before.

[martinuzz]

If you can stand cooking with trassi (rotten (or sun fermented, if you insist on euphemisms) shrimp and krill paste), like half the world population does, ground up insects should be no problem.
I'd try insects, no problem. If only they were affordable. The supermarkets expirimenting with them over here have them priced as luxury treats. Not gonna pay 6 or 7 euros for 100 grammes of beetle larvae.

Hint: don't sniff the trassi, just cook with it.
The wiki page on it is incomplete. It forgets to mention that (West-) african countries and former dutch caribbean and soutamerican colonies (Surinam) use it extensively as well, due to the Dutch introducing it to them from Indonesia. I don't think I'm far off when I said hat half the world eats it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrimp_paste

Do you often cook with trassi?
Because even though I'm Dutch I've never even heard of the stuff before.

Trassi is used as a base ingredient in most dishes you can order in the Chinese, Indonesian, Surinam and Ghanean / Nigerian restaurants you can find in the Netherlands. You can find it in the Albert Heijn as well, although probably only the dried version. For wet trassi you most likely need to go to the nearest toko. Although I suppose that if you don't experiment with exotic cooking yourself, the name trassi might be unfamiliar. I have the benefit of having world travellers in the family. My great grandparents lived in the Indonesian colonies for some years, and my mother was born in the Dutch province of Surinam (as it was called back then, when it was still a colony), because my grandparents moved there to get away from holocaust memories after the war. My grandparents already knew trassi from their parents' time in Indonesia, and they found it extensively used in Surinam cooking as well (which makes sense, since a Surinam has a large Indonesian minority, imported there by the Dutch colonial regime).
If you have to compare it to something Dutch, you could say it's to the Asian kitchen like 'bouillon blokjes' are to the Dutch kitchen (or 'een scheutje Maggi').

EDIT: anyhow the point I was trying to make is that trassi really, really smells disgusting. You want to cook with it, but you most certainly don't want it anywhere near your nose in it's pure form, or you will be 100x as disgusted as you will be by the thought of eating a crispy crawler, even if you didn't know it's made from rotten shrimps and other sea bugs.

[ChairmanPoo]

So one guy, we started him on treatment, was responding fine. But now he's dying of an unrelated preexisting condition. I dont think there is anything I could have done differently. In fact, strictly speaking my treatment was successful, very successful. But I am quite bilious because I cannot shake the feeling of failure.
I'm very bitter about this shit right now, even though I shouldn't be

[Descan]

Is it any different than if you treated him, he walked out of the hospital, and then got run over by a car? Would you feel responsible in that case?

[ChairmanPoo]

Would probably be somewhat bitter, but less so.

[Spehss _]

Been putting off registering for the last class I need to graduate college. Realized that if I don't sign up soon the class could be filled. Upon trying to register I've found there's some kind of "hold" preventing me from registering until I see a college advisor. The advising is closed tomorrow. There's 10 seats left in the one class I need to graduate.

I am now freaking out at midnight over how I may not be able to get this last class I need for ANOTHER semester because I am so STUPID as to procrastinate on something so important and so simple as registering for a class.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[SalmonGod]

So it seems like there's a renewed crackdown on piracy going on.  Torrent sites are dropping left and right.  A founder of Piratebay recently gave an interview where he firmly stated the open internet is a lost cause.  And I'm seeing first-hand evidence that they're going after individual users again, instead of just distributors -- harking back to the early 2000's days of the battle over file sharing.

I'm seriously considering boycotting major publishers right now.  I almost do already when it comes to games, because their content just sucks worse all the time.  But I'm talking everything else, too.

It's getting to the point where I want to just go somewhere prominent and set myself on fire.

All I do is work.  I give up sleep to have any free time.  It's always been like this, but it used to be because I was going to school and working.  Now it's because work just gets more and more ridiculous.  Supply chain operations are increasingly 24/7 in nature, and increasingly unpredictable and volatile due to cost cutting measures.  But the various providers involved don't hire the people needed to operate 24/7, because the stuff that happens outside of business hours, while frequent, is sporadic and not enough to keep someone busy for a whole shift.  God for-fucking-bid that someone get paid to cover time where there's no consistent supply of urgent demand.  And because hiring people simply isn't compatible with the corporate goal of posting higher profits every quarter.  Throw in executives demanding consistently higher performance on delusional KPI's with head-rolling ultimatums, and new projects and reports to make their lives more convenient at the expense of everyone else.

I've heard people accuse me of bragging when I mention how much I make (a bit above the national average household income), yet my wife talks more and more about using suicide to take her debt away from the family.  We both avoid getting anything but essential medical care.  We're no longer qualified for full Medicaid for our kids, and we're terrified of how this is going to play out for our diabetic kid, when costs for his supplies are skyrocketing right now.  And I suck as a parent anymore.  I'm too exhausted all the time anymore to show them any good nature, and it's near impossible for me to be engaged in their education.

We're not the best with money, but we're not exactly living extravagantly, either.  I saved for 2 years to buy something nice that's only 1.2% of my yearly income, and a good chunk of it was bought with gift cards.  I spend an average of $100 a year on games for myself and see a handful of movies.  I'll go to a concert once every couple years.  But according to older or richer people, this kind of thing is proof that I'm just part of a spoiled, entitled generation.  I'm supposed to pinch every penny and live the most horribly miserable slave life imaginable until I retire.

Fuck that shit.  I hate this country.  I'm sick of everything being judged on profitability, and our cultural obsession with wealth worship.  I want the whole business world burned to the ground.  The only optimistic thought I have for the future is that the post-apocalypse produces something better.

Before anyone worries - No, I'm not going to do anything rash.  Just venting.

[TheBiggerFish]

*hugs SalmonGod*

[EnigmaticHat]

Spoiler: way too angry for the sad thread, seriously don't read this (click to show/hide)

Older and richer people have their stability and they'll say or think whatever they want to convince themselves that they earned it.  I was so fucking angry when I learned that when my parents for years said they "worked their way through college" what they meant was that they did a 10 hours a week work study job.  I know people who did that for their entire college education and still took out multiple 10k+ loans.  One of them told me "it helps pay for the meal plan."  I know someone who worked a 20-30 hours a week retail job while doing more than a full courseload so they could get their undergraduate in 3 years.  Intermittent jobs + early graduation + financial aid + small scholarships = 30K in debt, of course.  And then the older generation has the gall to say the reason we're not getting jobs is because we get soft degrees like English or gender studies, like there's enough room in hard fields for even a third of the population.  While aggressively shaming people who work in retail and low level service jobs of course; someone has to clean the toilets but I guess it makes you a fucking failure at life.  "You have to work at McDonalds" is used as alternately a threat or an insult.  I've worked my current retail job that sees a wide variety of people for a year.  Do you know how many times any customer under 30 has ever been significantly, unfairly rude to me?  Literally 0.  But I could describe in detail a hundred incidents of 50+ years old people being so rude it would make your blood boil.  And mind you, this is the rich and the poor, American born and immigrant, male and female.  Doesn't fucking matter, the young customers are NEVER the ones that treat employees like crap.

Remember, a third of baby boomers would rather give their inheritance to charity than to their kids.  In this economy.  This is the same generation that decided to "take a chance" on Trump last year knowing full well that they'd be insulated from the consequences of what he does.  The same generation that overwhelmingly denies climate change knowing they'll die before it effects them anyway.  The same generation that consistently votes against socialized medicine and welfare and talks down to "welfare queens", while benefiting from the VAST majority of government aid.  Obamacare and food stamps are communism and ruining the budget but say a word about cutting social security or medicare and the AARP will make sure you never get elected.  Like seriously, how can you the fucking GALL to complain about other people's handouts when we spend almost twice as much on you as we do on the military you fucKING ENTITLED PIECES OF SHIT.

[SalmonGod]

Spoiler: way too angry for the sad thread, seriously don't read this (click to show/hide)

Older and richer people have their stability and they'll say or think whatever they want to convince themselves that they earned it.  I was so fucking angry when I learned that when my parents for years said they "worked their way through college" what they meant was that they did a 10 hours a week work study job.  I know people who did that for their entire college education and still took out multiple 10k+ loans.  One of them told me "it helps pay for the meal plan."  I know someone who worked a 20-30 hours a week retail job while doing more than a full courseload so they could get their undergraduate in 3 years.  Intermittent jobs + early graduation + financial aid + small scholarships = 30K in debt, of course.  And then the older generation has the gall to say the reason we're not getting jobs is because we get soft degrees like English or gender studies, like there's enough room in hard fields for even a third of the population.  While aggressively shaming people who work in retail and low level service jobs of course; someone has to clean the toilets but I guess it makes you a fucking failure at life.  "You have to work at McDonalds" is used as alternately a threat or an insult.  I've worked my current retail job that sees a wide variety of people for a year.  Do you know how many times any customer under 30 has ever been significantly, unfairly rude to me?  Literally 0.  But I could describe in detail a hundred incidents of 50+ years old people being so rude it would make your blood boil.  And mind you, this is the rich and the poor, American born and immigrant, male and female.  Doesn't fucking matter, the young customers are NEVER the ones that treat employees like crap.

Remember, a third of baby boomers would rather give their inheritance to charity than to their kids.  In this economy.  This is the same generation that decided to "take a chance" on Trump last year knowing full well that they'd be insulated from the consequences of what he does.  The same generation that overwhelmingly denies climate change knowing they'll die before it effects them anyway.  The same generation that consistently votes against socialized medicine and welfare and talks down to "welfare queens", while benefiting from the VAST majority of government aid.  Obamacare and food stamps are communism and ruining the budget but say a word about cutting social security or medicare and the AARP will make sure you never get elected.  Like seriously, how can you the fucking GALL to complain about other people's handouts when we spend almost twice as much on you as we do on the military you fucKING ENTITLED PIECES OF SHIT.

Amen.

[i2amroy]

@Spehss
Worst case scenario show up the first day with an override form for the professor to sign. Almost all college classes "fill up" well before the rooms hit the maximum fire code limit; I've almost never had a college class where there wasn't at least one person who was getting an override into the class on the first day.

[Solifuge]

Spoiler: way too angry for the sad thread, seriously don't read this (click to show/hide)

Older and richer people have their stability and they'll say or think whatever they want to convince themselves that they earned it.  I was so fucking angry when I learned that when my parents for years said they "worked their way through college" what they meant was that they did a 10 hours a week work study job.  I know people who did that for their entire college education and still took out multiple 10k+ loans.  One of them told me "it helps pay for the meal plan."  I know someone who worked a 20-30 hours a week retail job while doing more than a full courseload so they could get their undergraduate in 3 years.  Intermittent jobs + early graduation + financial aid + small scholarships = 30K in debt, of course.  And then the older generation has the gall to say the reason we're not getting jobs is because we get soft degrees like English or gender studies, like there's enough room in hard fields for even a third of the population.  While aggressively shaming people who work in retail and low level service jobs of course; someone has to clean the toilets but I guess it makes you a fucking failure at life.  "You have to work at McDonalds" is used as alternately a threat or an insult.  I've worked my current retail job that sees a wide variety of people for a year.  Do you know how many times any customer under 30 has ever been significantly, unfairly rude to me?  Literally 0.  But I could describe in detail a hundred incidents of 50+ years old people being so rude it would make your blood boil.  And mind you, this is the rich and the poor, American born and immigrant, male and female.  Doesn't fucking matter, the young customers are NEVER the ones that treat employees like crap.

Remember, a third of baby boomers would rather give their inheritance to charity than to their kids.  In this economy.  This is the same generation that decided to "take a chance" on Trump last year knowing full well that they'd be insulated from the consequences of what he does.  The same generation that overwhelmingly denies climate change knowing they'll die before it effects them anyway.  The same generation that consistently votes against socialized medicine and welfare and talks down to "welfare queens", while benefiting from the VAST majority of government aid.  Obamacare and food stamps are communism and ruining the budget but say a word about cutting social security or medicare and the AARP will make sure you never get elected.  Like seriously, how can you the fucking GALL to complain about other people's handouts when we spend almost twice as much on you as we do on the military you fucKING ENTITLED PIECES OF SHIT.

Amen.

Hear fucking hear.

[ChairmanPoo]

Our debts are laid upon us at birth. Rulers or subjects, we are all prisoners of the great wheel. Escape is the fancy of a child, freedom, the cruelest illusion.