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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9756335 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101880 on: February 11, 2016, 08:40:07 pm »

Going to go out on a limb here, but is it because using trans as a prefix makes it look like there's a distinction between a [transman/transwoman] and a [man/woman], while using it as an adjective instead makes the implication closer to a [man/woman] who just happens to be trans?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101881 on: February 11, 2016, 08:41:38 pm »

I'm fairly certain that's it (or part of it).
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101882 on: February 11, 2016, 08:43:51 pm »

Well that's retarded
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101883 on: February 11, 2016, 08:48:10 pm »

That's language for you. A single space can change the entire meaning of a sentence.

Explaining it, looking at it, and going "This is an extremely stupid system we humans have made," doesn't make the system go away.
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« Reply #101884 on: February 11, 2016, 08:48:28 pm »

Could always be worse. People might start using the prefix form of trans to denote transhumanism, thereby making the presence of the space completely change the meaning.
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« Reply #101885 on: February 11, 2016, 08:48:35 pm »

The point of it, I think, is that they don't want there to be a specific difference between themselves and a regular person. They want to be considered a regular person that just happens to have the wrong bits.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101886 on: February 11, 2016, 08:53:39 pm »

Love gone bad is like gangrene: You need to cut into healthy flesh to make sure you get rid of all the bad bits. Better to have a short sleeve amputation and live than to keep your elbow and die a short while later.
I prefer using maggots, myself. They eat the rotten goop but leave the healthy flesh behind to heal.
The problem is with the fact that love, unlike gangrene, resides in heart or brain (depends on how romantic you are) and it's kind of hard to amptutate either one (or both) and live. Also, I'm not exactly good at surgery, and even then I'm not a badass Soviet sciencist to do it on myself. And maggots... well, I may be one of those crazy medicinephobes, but I don't feel maggots on my brain or heart is a good idea... and I'm not exactly sure what would be left.
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« Reply #101887 on: February 11, 2016, 08:54:17 pm »

Love gone bad is like gangrene: You need to cut into healthy flesh to make sure you get rid of all the bad bits. Better to have a short sleeve amputation and live than to keep your elbow and die a short while later.
I prefer using maggots, myself. They eat the rotten goop but leave the healthy flesh behind to heal.
The problem is with the fact that love, unlike gangrene, resides in heart or brain (depends on how romantic you are) and it's kind of hard to amptutate either one (or both) and live. Also, I'm not exactly good at surgery, and even then I'm not a badass Soviet sciencist to do it on myself.
Hence OW's maggot suggestion :P
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101888 on: February 11, 2016, 09:01:05 pm »

Love gone bad is like gangrene: You need to cut into healthy flesh to make sure you get rid of all the bad bits. Better to have a short sleeve amputation and live than to keep your elbow and die a short while later.
I prefer using maggots, myself. They eat the rotten goop but leave the healthy flesh behind to heal.
The problem is with the fact that love, unlike gangrene, resides in heart or brain (depends on how romantic you are) and it's kind of hard to amptutate either one (or both) and live. Also, I'm not exactly good at surgery, and even then I'm not a badass Soviet sciencist to do it on myself. And maggots... well, I may be one of those crazy medicinephobes, but I don't feel maggots on my brain or heart is a good idea... and I'm not exactly sure what would be left.
Hence OW's maggot suggestion :P
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101889 on: February 11, 2016, 09:08:08 pm »

The point of it, I think, is that they don't want there to be a specific difference between themselves and a regular person. They want to be considered a regular person that just happens to have the wrong bits.
I fail to see how being called transwoman/transman as opposed to trans woman/trans man makes someone not a person.

I should probably clarify my earlier reaction.
Going to go out on a limb here, but is it because using trans as a prefix makes it look like there's a distinction between a [transman/transwoman] and a [man/woman], while using it as an adjective instead makes the implication closer to a [man/woman] who just happens to be trans?
That's utterly balmy. Of course a distinction exists between trans and not-trans; that's the whole reason the word exists. A trans woman isn't genetically female and no amount of politically correct pandering is going to change that.

What this boils down to is pretending there's a distinction between "transwoman" and "trans woman" (or man, or whatever) and being offended by what you are, which is dumb as hell, why would you want to be offended by yourself, I can't even

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101890 on: February 11, 2016, 09:11:21 pm »

It's the word. It's just the word. I'm not saying I understand either, but from what I've heard, they prefer it to be two words instead of one.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101891 on: February 11, 2016, 09:11:49 pm »

I am fucked in so many ways and tide has just been out until now. Choo choo here comes a gigantic fucking mess.
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« Reply #101892 on: February 11, 2016, 09:20:10 pm »

What this boils down to is pretending there's a distinction between "transwoman" and "trans woman" (or man, or whatever) and being offended by what you are, which is dumb as hell, why would you want to be offended by yourself, I can't even
Probably for the same reasons that people try to change terms like "fireman" into being gender neutral instead of just giving "man" back it's prefix and then using "man" without it's prefix as a gender neutral term.
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« Reply #101893 on: February 11, 2016, 09:22:09 pm »

because then we'd be calling men "weremen" and women would be all sad because they don't get awesome superpowers now

and/or we call them wyfman and that just raises all kinds of eyebrows of the german variety, eh Mein Frau eh?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #101894 on: February 11, 2016, 09:28:45 pm »

Love gone bad is like gangrene: You need to cut into healthy flesh to make sure you get rid of all the bad bits. Better to have a short sleeve amputation and live than to keep your elbow and die a short while later.
I prefer using maggots, myself. They eat the rotten goop but leave the healthy flesh behind to heal.
The problem is with the fact that love, unlike gangrene, resides in heart or brain (depends on how romantic you are) and it's kind of hard to amptutate either one (or both) and live. Also, I'm not exactly good at surgery, and even then I'm not a badass Soviet sciencist to do it on myself. And maggots... well, I may be one of those crazy medicinephobes, but I don't feel maggots on my brain or heart is a good idea... and I'm not exactly sure what would be left.
Well, I know quite a few heartless people - and in cities like Dresden societies for the brain-amputated have been enjoying great popularity in recent months.
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