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[TheBiggerFish]

Religion homework?

...Oh goddammit. My persuasive topic relies on souls not existing and thus no afterlife. I'm essentially arguing against religion. Frick.

Glad I could help.

[Orange Wizard]

my religion homework

* Orange Wizard shills the Religion Discussion thread.

[IcyTea31]

Religion homework?

It's probably the kind where it's handled as a human science, not as bad as it sounds. Questions like "what do people in different parts of the world believe in, and why, and what effects does this have on their cultures?" aren't exactly the indoctrination you'd expect from a subject titled 'Religion'.
By TheBiggerFish's post, their homework looks to be asking someone what their marriage ceremony was like, or something similarly harmless.


Caroline:
I thought 'Sex Ed' was supposed to be about educating students and dismissing common misconceptions, not having them repeated from the teacher's mouth. What use is a school where one doesn't get education?

[Orange Wizard]

Caroline:
I thought 'Sex Ed' was supposed to be about educating students and dismissing common misconceptions, not having them repeated from the teacher's mouth. What use is a school where one doesn't get education?

Hahahahahahahaha
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

No really, half the time sex ed consists of "okay class if you do sexy times before you're married then you go to hell".

[IcyTea31]

For me it was "okay class, we know you're going to do sexy times regardless of what we'll say, so here's how to do them safely."

Must be part of the local culture around here, then, to actually be schooled in school. Weird.

[Bauglir]

why do y'all want to die? Or, logically equivalent: why do y'all not want to live forever?

i'm not sure what your exact thesis is, but in the most general possible terms, i think it's because people see certain states of living as less acceptable than the state of death they expect

i don't believe in an afterlife, so those states of living would have to be irrevocably painful, unrewarding, and hopeless to make the cut, and i have fairly useful, if vague, ideas about what would make the cut, like months of life support drawing out a painful and inevitably terminal illness

but many other people not only have different ideas about what death is like (religion and such), but different thresholds for the sorts of experiences that would make continued living not worthwhile, so that for some people even oblivion is preferable to a lifetime that i might see as kind of shitty but still less terrifying than death

[Putnam]

See, I think of basically any situation being worse than death ridiculous because death is irreversible after a terrifyingly short time; your body gives in to entropy at the moment of death, and then you're gone forever. The vast majority of terminal illnesses are something that are foreseeably curable; death is not, as attempting to cure that after it happens is like trying to piece together a newspaper you've burned. That's not something I can really consider to be less terrifying than anything. Nothing is certain or permanent, except maybe the global tendency toward entropy, which, hey, death happens to be a part of. I figure it's best to delay that, preferably indefinitely.

[Yoink]

I had a rather interesting Fallout 4-based dream last night, yet I have the last post in the Dream thread and so cannot share it with you all.
Probably for the best- it might contain spoilers for future DLC.

[Bauglir]

-snip-

eh

that sounds fine in theory but when you've got a terminal cancer diagnosis and they're moving you to palliative care because medical science has thrown up its hands in defeat, i feel like the fact that your odds of recovery are strictly nonzero is kind of irrelevant compared to the number of 0s following the decimal point. at that point, it seems to me that your choice is between "death now" and "death in a coupla weeks or months, but between now and then is nothing but drug-induced blackouts and physical and emotional pain"

i'm dead either way, the only difference is how long i'm aware of it and how much i suffer

in principle, there's not much difference between that and the person who gives a shotgun a blowjob after a bad breakup

oh, trigger warning for suicide by the way

edit: fixed a dumb typo

[Orange Wizard]

See, I think of basically any situation being worse than death ridiculous because death is irreversible after a terrifyingly short time; your body gives in to entropy at the moment of death, and then you're gone forever.

Basically my opinion on the matter. Death is final. Life is full of possibilities.

[TheBiggerFish]

I had a rather interesting Fallout 4-based dream last night, yet I have the last post in the Dream thread and so cannot share it with you all.
Probably for the best- it might contain spoilers for future DLC.

Poooooooost iiiiiiiiit.

[Aseaheru]

Yes, please do. I need to find that thread so I can post my weird dream.

[Dutchling]

i ate all the pizza yesterday

now i dont have breakfast pizza

[Shadowlord]

I have a persuasive speech to make, but I chose a topic where I truly do not respect the opposing view, in the sense that I'm fairly sure that the only reason to have the opposing view is to never have thought about the problem in the first place.

This is very bad for me, since I feel like I can't make a convincing argument unless I have their convincing argument.

So, those who disagree: why do y'all want to die? Or, logically equivalent: why do y'all not want to live forever?

Reasons people want to die:
1. Alzheimer's / dementia (in which you essentially die mentally and end up a shell with a broken mind)
2. Anything incurable and extremely painful or expensive
3. Because their religion promises them a great afterlife and they believe it
4. Because they're suicidal (you can look into why that is)

[Dutchling]

5. dont want to live in a world where your values will always be seen as outdated and moronic

6. dont want to have everyone you know dying (doesnt really work if everyone becomes immortal)