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[Orange Wizard]

Killing cane toads is attempting to unfuck nature. Seems reasonable to me.

[Yoink]

Seriously?
I certainly hope killing humans in an attempt to unfuck nature seems reasonable to you, too, then, otherwise your argument makes zero sense.

[Tack]

Eh. Humans can get punished and learn. Or so is the idea.
The difference between sentience and nonsentience.

However, I for one am not willing to allow all of our awesome animals to die because cane toads were introduced by cautious scientists long ago in an attempt to kill the cane beetle.
It's like you're saying myxomatosis was a bad thing.

[IcyTea31]

Nature is a very jealous lover. If you fuck with it, you find that you have to keep fucking with it or it'll kill itself and possibly you in the process.

[Reelya]

What we really need to do is work out what eats cane toads, and introduce that species in Australia.

[Tack]

A couple of our native species have either worked out how to eat them, or have been found to be immune to the poison.
But a couple haven't.


Like this guy.

Spoiler: Also probably this guy but he gets less publicity (click to show/hide)

[scriver]

Seriously?
I certainly hope killing humans in an attempt to unfuck nature seems reasonable to you, too, then, otherwise your argument makes zero sense.

 

Seriously?
I certainly hope killing humans in an attempt to unfuck nature seems reasonable to you, too, then, otherwise your argument makes zero sense.

This is just too ridiculous. I really expect better logic from a goddamn grown up.

[Yoink]

Not sure what you're on about, there. You're the one who's failing to make sense.

Edit: Unfortunately I have to go to bed and as such cannot wait around for whatever insubstantial, snarky reply Scriver's going to come up with, so I'll just say this now: if you really think killing animals en masse is going to "help the environment", you aren't really thinking at all.

[Helgoland]

Depends on what you call 'the environment'. The sum of all animals? Functioning ecosystems? If the latter, how do you define functioning? An ecosystem in a state similar to the one before mankind was around? Then you'll be fucking up most of  Europe's current ecosystems, since they're pretty much all man-made one way or another.

It's a difficult question, is  what I'm saying.

[Bauglir]

Sounds a bit to me like saying, "Shit, I already crashed my car into his house. He doesn't need me interfering in his life anymore, so I'd better not pay for the repairs."

[scriver]

Not eradicating cane toads is what is killing animals en masse, Yoink.

[Tack]

If you really think killing animals en masse is going to "help the environment", you aren't really thinking at all.

Do you realize what would happen if we stopped killing cows?
The bloody things would be everywhere!
[/dylanmoran]

In seriousness, I can see where he's coming from. I can talk about saving Australia's special snowflake animals all I want, but then we go out and kill kangaroos because they're a pest animal which out-eats our livestock.

I guess it ends up coming down to 'Kill animals which inconvenience us most', which is probably a bad way to see life - other than the fact that cane toads don't really inconvenience me at all. I mean, swimming in a pool with them could lead to some interesting rashes/heart failure, but other than that they usually are just an ugly thing which is on my sidewalk sometimes.
But it's still been drummed into my head from a young age that they are the bane of all native animals, and to not terminate them wherever possible/convenient/unable-to-be-avoided is a cardinal sin.

But that's still part of the strange and rather wavy line of animal eradication. The European bee is the bane of the tiny brown native bees, but I don't run around with a fumigator.
That being said, if I come across a hive of native bees, I'll generally keep an eye on it and make sure nothing goes horribly wrong, and if I saw a bunch of the black-and-yellow bitches swarming it, I'd almost certainly start putting whacks in.
So now I'm curious as to whether that's soft-heartedness or god complex, as I guess true soft-heartedness is 'Don't kill animals, let them sort it out'.

Which, in the current context is nixed, because the developers next-door filling in the swamp was what caused this population boom, and whilst they're eventually gonna starve eachother out in the fullness of time, they're still gonna be breeding and eating and competing, to the misfortune of everything else in the area.
Just like humans do.

[sprinkled chariot]

Just wait until some super cane toad resistant predators evolve. Eventually you will get  something cool like australian  acid spitting flying snakes or flying australian spiders shooting needles full of parasitic spider eggs to grow inside the host, until host bursts into australian flying needleshooting spider swarm.

[Criptfeind]

Do you realize what would happen if we stopped killing cows?
The bloody things would be everywhere!

Cows would eat all the grass away until there was nothing left for them to feed on... Except human flesh!!!

[Graknorke]

Let's wait until acid-resistant coral and birds with oil-proof feathers show up.
Oh no wait that would be stupid.