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[MaximumZero]

I seriously considered it. I consider it most days. At least I'm out of the house full time with my job. I miss my family, but I don't miss everything else that goes with being in the house right now.

[Tack]

Yeah, that sounds like hell. Wolfeyez having the same troubles?

That's one way of putting it. Another way would be to say that they're a bunch of pathological liars.

Har Har. I mean baseline things. Like saying 'Sorry' for things that aren't your fault, or being sombre at the funerals of people you didn't know or care about.
I would say that the basic veneer over all of humanity is just respect.

[MaximumZero]

Yeah, that sounds like hell. Wolfeyez having the same troubles?

That's one way of putting it. Another way would be to say that they're a bunch of pathological liars.

Har Har. I mean baseline things. Like saying 'Sorry' for things that aren't your fault, or being sombre at the funerals of people you didn't know or care about.
I would say that the basic veneer over all of humanity is just respect.

Yes and no. Her mom has been a tremendous help with the baby, and like I said, she's exceedingly generous. Wolfeyez isn't getting a ton of sleep, however, and has seemingly adopted her mom's mentality that I'm...well, for lack of a better way of saying it, essentially worthless, except to go to work and take care of my oldest kid (who isn't blood related to them.) I ask frequently if there's anything I can do to help either of them, and just get blown off, no matter what the situation is. *sigh* Life is hard sometimes, and this has been going on for just over a month. It's almost over, though. The packers come tomorrow and everything gets moved two days after that.

[Putnam]

have you considered that most humans naturally filter

That's one way of putting it. Another way would be to say that they're a bunch of pathological liars.

It's not lying to avoid telling what you think to be truth when it's not prudent to do so. That's called not being an asshole.

EDIT: recent discussions may lead to the conclusion that i am referring to someone or some group of people specifically with that statement

i am not

and just in case you're feeling cynical, I actually mean that and am not just covering my ass

...but i guess sufficient cynicism won't believe me on that anyway

[Rose]

Yeah, that sounds like hell. Wolfeyez having the same troubles?

That's one way of putting it. Another way would be to say that they're a bunch of pathological liars.

Har Har. I mean baseline things. Like saying 'Sorry' for things that aren't your fault, or being sombre at the funerals of people you didn't know or care about.
I would say that the basic veneer over all of humanity is just respect.

Yes and no. Her mom has been a tremendous help with the baby, and like I said, she's exceedingly generous. Wolfeyez isn't getting a ton of sleep, however, and has seemingly adopted her mom's mentality that I'm...well, for lack of a better way of saying it, essentially worthless, except to go to work and take care of my oldest kid (who isn't blood related to them.) I ask frequently if there's anything I can do to help either of them, and just get blown off, no matter what the situation is. *sigh* Life is hard sometimes, and this has been going on for just over a month. It's almost over, though. The packers come tomorrow and everything gets moved two days after that.

Do we share the same mother-in-law, by any chance?

[MaximumZero]

All mothers-in-law are the same mother in law, from what I gather. Like a Pathos hivemind, but not quite to that extent.

[RedKing]

My mother-in-law was/is actually pretty awesome. Even as an ex-mother-in-law. Both my in-laws were pretty awesome. I felt shittier for disappointing them than I did for disappointing my wife.

That said, I've heard enough in-law stories to know my situation was rare.

Good on ya, MZ. The house condition sounds like the state of my grandfather's house after he died and my mom had her two "friends" and their shit-factory rat-dogs move in. All of them, mom included, were hoarders and none of them ever cleaned. We wound up ripping up all the carpet and just burning it. And now my half-brother is living there and hasn't paid me a dime of the rent we agreed upon. It's a tough situation -- I don't want to evict him, and frankly he's doing me a service by keeping the place from becoming even more of a wreck. But he's not really fixing it up either, which was part of the plan. And he's not paying me, so it's gonna be a stretch to pay the property taxes which are coming due in a few months. And he's supposed to be saving up to get a mortgage and buy it from me down the road, but he can't seem to hold down a job and his credit is shit. *sigh*

That house is the one I grew up in, and it's really hard to see the condition it's deteriorated to. It's also the only asset of any value that I own, and it's my kids' college fund basically. I'll never live there again, because lolfuckno not moving back to that wretched town.

[Descan]

I hope you talk to Wolfy about that after you're in the new place, though. >_>

[Yoink]

My housemates seem to piss me off more and more every day.
I want to go live in a cave somewhere far away from people and live off roadkill/foraged fruit or something.

[IcyTea31]

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In my eyes, a 'perfect argument' will go either of two ways.

One, a person on one side of the argument is misinformed or uninformed. During the argument, they become informed, and change their opinion.
Two, both people have intrinsic principles which are conflicting for the sake of this argument. During the argument, these principles become unearthed, both people go 'Huh', and it ends.

Unfortunately, stubbornness, privacy and irrationality get in the way of these. We're only human, after all.

Or three, both people realize the argument is about a completely arbitrary matter of taste (say, pizza toppings), and that there is next to no point in trying to sway the other person because their choice is probably just fine, and end the argument before it begins.

[Tack]

(That was my no. 2)

My father had nothing but good things to say about my maternal gram.
That was because she stayed on the other side of the continent, in an indigenous village.
No phone? No problem.

[Yoink]

In preparation for the trip to the US (chiefly the Southwestern bits) I did some googling.
I was saddened to discover that bolo ties with a pentagram design are hard to come by.

[Arx]

I just got my next exam timetable. Eight weeks' relief, of which half is holiday, and then it starts again. Two of the worst cram subjects are on the same day, too.

[itisnotlogical]

It's almost 7 in the morning, I haven't slept yet and I have work at noon. I've been lying in bed perfectly awake all night. I know that pent up "Should have been asleep, dickhead!" will hit me all at once the instant I step in to work, but there's nothing I can really do about that now besides laying awake some more.

[TD1]

I just got my next exam timetable. Eight weeks' relief, of which half is holiday, and then it starts again. Two of the worst cram subjects are on the same day, too.

Yea... I know what that's like. My last two were my most crammy, and on the same day. I only had time to prepare for one possibility exam-wise for the latter one. There were three it could be, realistically two as they've never done the same one two years in a row before. The other came up.

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