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[Graknorke]

I don't really understand what you mean, but it still doesn't sound like a good reason. And on loneliness, I do believe it was only earlier this week you were talking about how you had some totes rad admirers. Is there a reason you can't talk to them or something?

[hops]

People are usually busy/asleep around the time I wake up/go to bed.

[Graknorke]

Oh, you meant a time-specific thing rather than a general existential thing.
Yeah morning/evening are pretty shitty times of day. I agree with you there.

[Worldmaster27]

I don't know why I bother anymore. I think it would be best if I just left. No one will notice or care so what does it matter?

[Tack]

I don't know why I bother anymore. I think it would be best if I just left.

Recently, I haven't been replying to you because I literally have nothing nice to say about this current... 'nobody cares'... thing.
I do not react well to such things. So to avoid pushing whatever depressive slump you're in currently even further, I choose not to react at all.
I would notice if you left - but.... aaargh... cannot say anything.

I... the 'popularity contest' thing here is all a facade. At the end of the day, this is an online forum. It means very little.

[Spehss _]

I... the 'popularity contest' thing here is all a facade. At the end of the day, this is an online forum. It means very little.

There's a popularity contest here? The hell? Since when? What?

[Aqizzar]

I don't know why I bother anymore. I think it would be best if I just left.

Recently, I haven't been replying to you because I literally have nothing nice to say about this current... 'nobody cares'... thing.
I do not react well to such things. So to avoid pushing whatever depressive slump you're in currently even further, I choose not to react at all.
I would notice if you left - but.... aaargh... cannot say anything.

I... the 'popularity contest' thing here is all a facade. At the end of the day, this is an online forum. It means very little.

I can tell you this, everyone involved in this contest is rapidly losing popularity with me.

[MaximumZero]

Spoiler: Don't bother, just venting. (click to show/hide)

In a few days, there will be no more dogs, no more incessant noise, no more brain-addled dementia patient, no more being volunteered for shit that I don't want to do. My mother in law is still here with grandma and the 5 dogs (which many of you know I'm not a fan of.) I've been hiding in a bedroom upstairs, since we moved into the house, that I kind of...took over. I'm sick to death of living in less than half a house. There is so much clutter in this place that you can't walk around the dining room table, and half the staircase is taken up with random shit. Every room in the house is like that, even my fortress of solitude. The smell of dog piss is everywhere. I can't escape it. I can't walk through the house barefoot because the floors are constantly filthy because of those yappy little shits. I've been mowing the lawn, and I cannot wait until I no longer have to wade through an unholy amount of dogshit to do so. I miss sleeping in the same bed as my wife. She's been sleeping on the couch because that's the only place we could put the baby's crib because the house is so full of random shit. There is literally a hutch in every room that is full to the brim of knick-knacks. I miss real food. My mother in law insists on cooking everything because she apparently used to own a restaurant, but I'll take the wife's cooking 11 out of 10 days. The worst part of living with the mother in law is that I am always wrong. Always. I could be talking about mixed martial arts, and she'll still shoot me down and essentially call me stupid.

Don't get me wrong. The in-laws have been very generous...but I can't wait until they're in another state.

[Tack]

I... the 'popularity contest' thing here is all a facade. At the end of the day, this is an online forum. It means very little.

There's a popularity contest here? The hell? Since when? What?

How Well Known is the Person Above You?
It is thousands of pages.

I would say, since the beginning of this forum. Hell, I remember at one point caring about whether I was recognizable as Jackrabbit or Duke.
Nowadays there's more members though, so it's thankfully around a lot less.

[WillowLuman]

I shall eternally regret posting in that thread. Fortunately, it seems to be dead as of late.

My sad:
French class is making me feel like a fool. I am terrible with spoken French. Stuttering and reaching, grasping for words. Makes me feel a bit of a fool. If only I had someone outside of class to practice with.

[Spehss _]

How Well Known is the Person Above You?
It is thousands of pages.

I would say, since the beginning of this forum. Hell, I remember at one point caring about whether I was recognizable as Jackrabbit or Duke.
Nowadays there's more members though, so it's thankfully around a lot less.

Oooooh, that thing. Is that what Worldmaster's bummed about? That seems like a small reason to completely leave the forum.

[Frumple]

Skype, HL. Or something similar. There's places online where you can find native speakers willing to practice with you, iirc, or at least there were a decade or so ago. Know a couple folks that were in my french classes back in high school went that route, and used it later on to pursue actual fluency (after boatloads and boatloads of practice). Useful stuff if there's no one local available. Incidentally, consider asking whoever's teaching you for resources of that nature.

Barring that, maybe youtube or something -- look for stuff from native french speaking countries, listen in, try to parrot it until you're more comfortable.

[wierd]

I really can't get out of my head the idea that what I've lost recently isn't something Ill ever replace...

A friend, a puppy, a sibling? A sense of childlike wonder?
Rrraaaugh so vaaague.

But yeah. The good news is, it's over.
I mean, was.

@wierd: not to stir the pot, but have you considered that most humans naturally filter, and to remove the filter is actually a superficial consideration for you?
I have had the same thoughts recently, is all.

The conversation has moved on, but to answer your question-- yes.  Most people instinctively filter. It leads to many problems in their relationships; Their lovers dont know the real them, they dont know who their lover really is, people they thought they knew do something radically unexpected-- because they did not really know the real person-- etc.

This is because people wanting a romantic relationship filter HARD-- and present an idealized front for their prospective mate.  This happens on both sides-- Both fall in love with the phantom the other presented, and not the real person. People can only sustain a phantom for so long-- such relationships are doomed to fail, because eventually the act of keeping up the front is so exhausting and unpleasant that the joy they once felt for their partner dies on the vine. This causes one or both of the partners to just one day stop sustaining the phantom, and shit gets real.  --all could have been avoided, just by not conjuring the phantoms to begin with.

Likewise with people pretending to like things their friends like, or behaving a certain way to satisfy the emotional well being of a family member-- what have you.  Eventually the strain of sustaining the phantom gets to be so great, that they just cant or wont do it any more, and then shit gets real.

Again-- all could have been avoided, just by not conjuring the phantoms to begin with.

The worst that will happen is that you wont be accepted for who and what you are.  It the person cant or wont accept the real you, then you are better off not getting in the relationship in the first place-- IMHO.

If you want to continue this discussion, we should take it to PMs though.

[Bohandas]

have you considered that most humans naturally filter

That's one way of putting it. Another way would be to say that they're a bunch of pathological liars.

[Aqizzar]

Don't bother, just venting.

Oh man, semi-retired hoarders with too many pets.  I know that story all too well.  Godspeed dude, you are a brave man to put up with that shit, I would have just lived in the car.