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[CaptainMcClellan]

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(I would probably post this in the rage thread if it still existed. RIP culture.)

Fortunately, many of the destroyed items were replicas, and the originals are in other museums. However, the act shows their desire to erase evidence of anything contrary to their views.

Okay, that makes me feel a little bit better. Even if I don't approve of idol worship, which I don't, practically nobody ( maybe one person ) worships the statues anymore so they're not really idols anymore? Which... I should stop trying to apply logic to terrorist acts, they're just designed to provoke emotion. Those things were valuable insights into history, that fortunately we at least had time to photograph before their destruction, but it's not the same! If we get rid of stuff like that, we'd never learn about these civilizations that apparently we're supposed to hate according to them, so.... It doesn't? It doesn't make sense! Even by their own standards!!! >:|

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(I would probably post this in the rage thread if it still existed. RIP culture.)

Fortunately, many of the destroyed items were replicas, and the originals are in other museums. However, the act shows their desire to erase evidence of anything contrary to their views.

Replicas aside: "Oh, what's this ancient monument/artifact that's over 10k years old (so to speak)? What can we learn from the past; what they figured out? Turns out, our religion doesn't agree with any of it, and we're offended; who cares if it tells of our origins or whatever? It's gotta go." --Standard extremist protocol; generally speaking.

Makes me wish whatever god is in charge of all existence, or whatever (whoever's right), reveals themselves, and says "That's it, I'm done with this planet. You humans suck. Later.". Even as a ruse, just to shock everyone into behaving themselves, or something. Then again, it'll always be a blame game or something, and a religious war about "who disappointed God the most" would come up. I dunno. I'm angry at this happening in the first place. STOP DESTROYING HISTORICAL ARTIFACTS BECAUSE YOU'RE RECENTLY OFFENDED, YOU NUMBNUTS!!!

ISIS (extremists) has the same collective intelligence as ISIS (Archer) right now overall.

EDIT:
Possible solution: Let's send the Scientologists over there to fight against them (at least, via ideologies). It'll be the definition of fun to watch.

Thanks. I needed a joke to play this off or I was just going to fume all day and rant about how crazy people don't make sense.

[CaptainMcClellan]

Spoiler: A little scared to say this (click to show/hide)

* sighs * I know ( well, technically am merely pretty sure ) that Muslims are not supposed to kill each other by their law, but you'd think that the various Muslim-majority and (predominantly) Islamic government states would send their own retaliation against this guys. Is it just that noone knows where they are or... what? I don't watch the news, I don't really know.

[Itnetlolor]

What's funny is that even though my religion also states not to have strange gods before our Lord, or not to worship idols and such, we at least have enough sense to preserve history enough to learn something about it. We'll give people crap for worshipping them at the worst (and not all of us are dicks like that either; myself an example. If anything, we'd give more crap for celebrating Football like a religion (Keep holy the Sabbath Day; Church for at least an hour, not watching TV/[insert game here] instead), rather than worshipping another god), but even so, it's still history; we'd still like to learn something about other cultures. At least, those of us who are rational/tolerant (silent majority).

But overall, it's an extremist principle. Take something you believe in, and have so much faith in it that your rationality goes out the window. Just look at Westboro (vocal minority), and other religious groups that don't know how to draw a line in their beliefs. Even non-believers can be total assholes.

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I guess, overall, certain people want a reason to be the very definition of the term "asshole" and get away with it, what better reason than "because God said so". I guess the amount of times that excuse has been made was what was so offensive to so many over the course of history.

[SquatchHammer]

Great actor and narrator. He also had a voice too. If I Had a hammer is on my Zune.

[WillowLuman]

Spoiler: A little scared to say this (click to show/hide)

* sighs * I know ( well, technically am merely pretty sure ) that Muslims are not supposed to kill each other by their law, but you'd think that the various Muslim-majority and (predominantly) Islamic government states would send their own retaliation against this guys. Is it just that noone knows where they are or... what? I don't watch the news, I don't really know.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

They are. ISIL is not just terrorists that operate in the shadows, though. They have actually seized and taken control of territory, mostly in Syria and Iraq. No government on Earth recognizes them as a legitimate government, partly because they consider themselves the only rightful government in the entire world and disrespect the sovereignty of everyone else. So, pretty much everyone is pissed at them, including the other terror groups.

Problem is, their territory is surrounded by an area still in the midst of civil war (Syria) and the Iraqi government has its hands full enough already, and the other neighbors have problems of their own to deal with. It's difficult to take a land war to them, and they have agents all over the region besides. Additionally, despite being enemy to everyone, people have trouble putting aside their differences to fight them. Iran and the US, for example, want them gone but so far refuse to cooperate. Ditto for other regional rivals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Countries_and_groups_at_war_with_ISIL

[CaptainMcClellan]

What's funny is that even though my religion also states not to have strange gods before our Lord, or not to worship idols and such, we at least have enough sense to preserve history enough to learn something about it. We'll give people crap for worshipping them at the worst, but even so, it's still history; we'd still like to learn something about other cultures. At least, those of us who are rational (silent majority).

But overall, it's an extremist principle. Take something you believe in, and have so much faith in it that your rationality goes out the window. Just look at Westboro (vocal minority), and other religious groups that don't know how to draw a line in their beliefs. Even non-believers can be total assholes.

EDIT:
I guess, overall, certain people want a reason to be the very definition of the term "asshole" and get away with it, what better reason than "because God said so". I guess the amount of times that excuse has been made was what was so offensive to so many over the course of history.

Eyeah. Same. And it's like... I get that you want to be pious and do the right thing and all, but when you're just setting things on fire, breaking things, and killing people for attention, you're not a holy warrior, you're a vandal. And a brat. I would understand if they were doing this during a time period when people were being routinely sacrificed to these statues and prayers were being said to them, but that is not the case. In fact, unless I'm very mistaken, most of people are already of the religion that they're trying to get the support/sympathy of and/or convert people to!

Is that really faith anymore? Jesus, by his own statements, said that he came to "give sight to the blind", and it's hard-to-impossible to challenge his faith and understanding of it. By that, should we even count "blind faith" as faith? * shrugs *

What's weird is that these people somehow conjure up very strong protections ( in some way or another ), slaves, and voice amplifiers within less than a year. Take ISIS, for example. Before 2012: Nobody knew anything about them, maybe they didn't even exist. Now: All over the news. Scientology as a less recent example. ( Scientology admittedly doesn't blow people up, hang them, or slit their throats to my knowledge. I'm just bringing them up because they were mentioned already. A better example I thought of while typing would be the Mansons and their group. )

Spoiler: A little scared to say this (click to show/hide)

* sighs * I know ( well, technically am merely pretty sure ) that Muslims are not supposed to kill each other by their law, but you'd think that the various Muslim-majority and (predominantly) Islamic government states would send their own retaliation against this guys. Is it just that noone knows where they are or... what? I don't watch the news, I don't really know.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

They are. ISIL is not just terrorists that operate in the shadows, though. They have actually seized and taken control of territory, mostly in Syria and Iraq. No government on Earth recognizes them as a legitimate government, partly because they consider themselves the only rightful government in the entire world and disrespect the sovereignty of everyone else. So, pretty much everyone is pissed at them, including the other terror groups.

Problem is, their territory is surrounded by an area still in the midst of civil war (Syria) and the Iraqi government has its hands full enough already, and the other neighbors have problems of their own to deal with. It's difficult to take a land war to them, and they have agents all over the region besides. Additionally, despite being enemy to everyone, people have trouble putting aside their differences to fight them. Iran and the US, for example, want them gone but so far refuse to cooperate. Ditto for other regional rivals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#Countries_and_groups_at_war_with_ISIL

Thank you Hugo. Pardon my ignorance. This makes me feel a bit better that they won't persist as they hope to. It also explains a bit about why they can't be gotten to easily. Civil war is a bloody mess. Even so, can't we work together long enough to do battle against them before we start shooting at each other?

[Urist Imiknorris]

Wait, the narrator of Seaman died?

[CaptainMcClellan]

Wait, the narrator of Seaman died?

Yeah. and now it's time to express my sadness with Leonard Nimoy passing. I'm not near as much of a fan as most of you guys and gals expressing your sadness at his passing, I still like and appreciate the tiny shreds of his work I've seen and am pretty sure I'd become a fan if I took the opportunity to familiarize myself with his work. And in his memory I may well do that. It's really too bad though, he was a pillar in the SF community and he'll be missed. ( He'll also never be a head-in-a-jar again. )

[Tawa]

RIP Spock.

You lived well and prospered.

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I think the guy that killed my friend is getting off Scott free....
This is greatly upsetting

[WillowLuman]

I think the guy that killed my friend is getting off Scott free....
This is greatly upsetting

Have there been proceedings?

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

I think the guy that killed my friend is getting off Scott free....
This is greatly upsetting

Have there been proceedings?

I'm not sure
I don't know much legal stuff.

Not sure if you know what happened, it got put up here a while back

[WillowLuman]

Yeah, I remember. Did they ever find out who it was?

[Cryxis, Prince of Doom]

....
You sure you remember?
It wasn't a murder
Well not in the normal sense

A guy got drunk (and possibly high I forget) and went street racing with his idiot friends, with a passenger in his car, at 6 in the morning. He lost control of his truck and slammed into my friend while he was waiting for the bus killing him (my friend) instantly.
The driver has been in the hospital a while because he got pretty beaten up in the wreak.

[WillowLuman]

I do remember, I just don't remember whether you ever said it was a hit-n-run or not. Since they do know who it was, charges can be pressed as soon as he's fit to stand trial.