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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88545 on: February 17, 2015, 06:47:40 pm »

Felt weighted down and lethargic this morning. Currently I feel hollow and lethargic. I don't know why. About the heaviness, I mean. Apathy isn't new.

My first thought was that it was because I had to go to the doctor's today. It didn't help anything. Previous medication did nothing, though I took it fairly irregularly. My mom made herself in charge of my medication; carrying them around with her in her purse and doling it out every once in a while. She would forget more often than not, despite me reminding her almost every night. I was given a new prescription by my doctor. Barely got in the door when my mom took them off me. Looks like she's in charge of this medication too.

I told my doctor about my mom doing this. My doctor is confused. Especially since neither her or I have been given an explanation by my mom as to why she gets to be gatekeeper of my medication.

My doctor initially asked that I wean myself off of my current medication, then refrain for a few days before starting my new one, so that my body has time to flush itself out. I told my doctor that I wouldn't have to do that, since I hadn't taken any of my old medication in a couple of days. Because my mom made the conclusion that they didn't help me any and threw them out.

I feel I should reiterate that not only is this my medication that my mother is controlling, but that I paid for it with my own money. And it was not cheap. Quite a few pills were tossed on my mother's whim. She did a shit job of making sure I took them, too, even with me constantly reminder her about them.

Maybe that's why I feel terrible. I might be fucked from coming off the pills. I may have been taking them very irregularly, but I was still taking them for quite a period of time.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88546 on: February 17, 2015, 07:04:23 pm »

*Steps outside*

*Snow up to knees*

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88547 on: February 17, 2015, 07:25:07 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88548 on: February 17, 2015, 07:30:14 pm »

School's been cancelled for tomorrow, and we didn't have it today either.

It's being cancelled because the temperature is sitting at about a bit less than 0 degrees Celsius - there's no snow and only a little ice in the trees and roads.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88549 on: February 17, 2015, 07:38:00 pm »

Sounds like a perfectly good excuse to fuck off and enjoy the nice weather instead of going to school to be belittled by your peers and learn nothing anyway.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88550 on: February 17, 2015, 08:01:22 pm »

Well I don't live in the US so discrimination because of orientation and political beliefs isn't so big a problem.
And while the not getting employed bit is valid I guess, I think it's unrealistic to expect me to care. I am a 17 year old who has never been employed and probably won't be full time for another 4-5 years. It's has about as much impact as someone saying "you should prepare more for exams". Sure, I know it's true but that doesn't mean I'll act on it. It's one of those things that just feels inconsequential and a long distance from anything that's relevant to me.

And while that was pretty specific to me and not the general issue, I also have to ask the more general question of why not being quoted would help with any of that? Sure you can change it if you want, but you're hardly going to be given a warning from a potential employer, "Oh by the way I'm going to look up everything about you on the internet starting in the next week, and I'm not particularly fond of socialism." They're just going to look you up and see the stuff before you can do anything.

It's not as though I'm itching to quote you, I won't if you don't want people to. But it's the absolute insistence that everyone should think the same and expectation that we totally will too if we'd just understand how important you think it is that I don't get. Most of us aren't lawyers.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88551 on: February 17, 2015, 08:03:44 pm »

Because she can redact her posts, but if you quote her, then the text is in your post and she can't touch it.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88552 on: February 17, 2015, 08:06:59 pm »

Yes I understand that, but what is the benefit of being able to redact posts? By the time you know it's been looked at it's already too late.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88553 on: February 17, 2015, 08:08:47 pm »

Because she can use intuition, judgement, and wisdom to anticipate someone looking for her posts and maybe, just maybe save herself by getting to it before they see it. If you quote her text, you remove that option.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88554 on: February 17, 2015, 08:17:43 pm »

Because she can use intuition, judgement, and wisdom to anticipate someone looking for her posts and maybe, just maybe save herself by getting to it before they see it. If you quote her text, you remove that option.
I'm sorry but I do not know by what mechanism you could know what someone else is looking at, nor what they're looking for.

Also:
It's not as though I'm itching to quote you
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« Reply #88555 on: February 17, 2015, 08:20:43 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88556 on: February 17, 2015, 08:27:55 pm »

Because she can use intuition, judgement, and wisdom to anticipate someone looking for her posts and maybe, just maybe save herself by getting to it before they see it. If you quote her text, you remove that option.
I'm sorry but I do not know by what mechanism you could know what someone else is looking at, nor what they're looking for.

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It's not as though I'm itching to quote you
Say, for instance, she's going to take a case where the opposition could quote a certain post she said on the forums out of context, and so seriously damage her credibility in the eyes of the judge or the jury. So, anticipating this because she's done her homework and knows that post might be an issue in this case, she goes back and removes it.

Or, perhaps a clearer hypothetical, say she needs not to piss off nosy person X who hates everyone who expresses Y opinion, so before she initiates dealings with Y she goes back and redacts posts containing X, just to be sure.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88557 on: February 17, 2015, 08:32:10 pm »

Because she can use intuition, judgement, and wisdom to anticipate someone looking for her posts and maybe, just maybe save herself by getting to it before they see it. If you quote her text, you remove that option.
To be honest I personally don't see much of the point. I mean I get the logic is coming from, but it just doesn't really make sense to me. Because of the way the internet works it's literally impossible to prevent someone from finding out information about you short of becoming a hermit who lives in the middle of the wilderness. Even should you refuse to actually use the internet, we've reached the point of connectivity where it's totally possible to track someone purely through their interactions with people that do, assuming you are patient enough. I personally can and have linked a person's potential real identity to them, even with them taking basic precautions, just to prove to them that it could be done if you were willing to be patient enough. (Of course it's not like I announced it to the world or anything, they just wanted to know if I could do it). In this case you could probably reconstruct a fairly valid profile just by going back through the posts and looking at the responses to them, as well as the last times they were edited. If any were edited recently that means they were probably more likely to contain things you would be against. (Heck, if you were really thorough you would be able to pull up this discussion and much more definitely link recent editings to things that you would disagree with!)

Once you assume that people can find out whatever they want about you, regardless of what you do, it becomes a simple effectiveness vs. cost curve, where you can rate how effective methods are at slowing down people who want to find out about you against how much it costs you and other's to do it. Asking people to not quote you is like, way down on that curve, and there's tons of things you should be doing before that to maximize your protection. Simple things like using different usernames on different places, not posting multiple details about your life in the same place, tweaking slight details in the things you do post, and running through proxy systems or even hardcore anonymizers like tor.

Assuming you are doing all of those things, asking people to not quote you on the off-chance you can change it without someone putting it back together it is like hiding under your blanket in you locked bedroom inside your moat-ringed castle on the off-chance that any attackers won't be able to find you under it (after they have already swam the moat, breached the walls, and battered down your locked door). Sure, it adds a minuscule bit more of protection, but it certainly inconveniences the others in the room who are trying to talk to you way more than any form of additional protection it provides.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88558 on: February 17, 2015, 08:44:22 pm »

I believe Truean said "plausible deniability" rather than "never divulge anything ever to anyone".
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #88559 on: February 17, 2015, 08:46:08 pm »

To be honest I personally don't understand why people can't understand basic courtesy. If someone doesn't want to be quoted, you don't quote them. It doesn't matter if it's an effective way to hide information or not. You don't do it. Quit being an asshat.
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