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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87420 on: January 24, 2015, 09:36:22 pm »

Even with pictures of Audrey Hepburn?
That would depend on whether Vector likes girls or not. Or maybe it wouldn't? Maybe it's more like me and Arnie.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87421 on: January 24, 2015, 09:41:26 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87422 on: January 24, 2015, 10:01:40 pm »

Went to family counseling today. Normally it's not bad, but this time my dad started crying about how "he's mourning his son" and how "his son is gone and a person he doesn't know has replaced him."

I tried to put a happy spin on it and tell him that in losing a son he's gained a daughter but he didn't even let me finish before snapping back at me. "Oh shut up! It's not even about that!" So I bit my tongue at sat in seething silence until he was done crying like a baby because his family didn't turn out the way he'd hoped.

What I wanted to say was, "Oh be quiet. You don't even know how good you have it right now. You're working your dream job and you have a wife who loves you. You have two (in your own words) incredibly smart daughters and dozens upon dozens of hugely supportive friends. You have a house. You have two cats and a dog. What do I have? I barely have a roof over my head. I'm unemployed, on food stamps, almost all of the few friends I have live in other states or countries and I've only ever had one relationship that lasted over a month. Stop making out like you're the victim because one thing out of the myriad hopes and dreams you had as a kid didn't pan out. You have it better than a lot of people, including me. You want a son? Go adopt a fucking son. I've never been your son and I was never going to be. Get the fuck over it and definitely stop trying to guilt trip me over something that's not even my fault."

What I actually said was, "Yea, I understand that."

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87423 on: January 24, 2015, 10:33:43 pm »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87424 on: January 24, 2015, 11:13:23 pm »

Went to family counseling today. Normally it's not bad, but this time my dad started crying about how "he's mourning his son" and how "his son is gone and a person he doesn't know has replaced him."

I tried to put a happy spin on it and tell him that in losing a son he's gained a daughter but he didn't even let me finish before snapping back at me. "Oh shut up! It's not even about that!" So I bit my tongue at sat in seething silence until he was done crying like a baby because his family didn't turn out the way he'd hoped.

What I wanted to say was, "Oh be quiet. You don't even know how good you have it right now. You're working your dream job and you have a wife who loves you. You have two (in your own words) incredibly smart daughters and dozens upon dozens of hugely supportive friends. You have a house. You have two cats and a dog. What do I have? I barely have a roof over my head. I'm unemployed, on food stamps, almost all of the few friends I have live in other states or countries and I've only ever had one relationship that lasted over a month. Stop making out like you're the victim because one thing out of the myriad hopes and dreams you had as a kid didn't pan out. You have it better than a lot of people, including me. You want a son? Go adopt a fucking son. I've never been your son and I was never going to be. Get the fuck over it and definitely stop trying to guilt trip me over something that's not even my fault."

What I actually said was, "Yea, I understand that."
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I suck at giving support/trying to comfort people even in real life, and worse on the internet, so I'm just gonna say that you really don't deserve that, at all. Stay strong.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87425 on: January 24, 2015, 11:30:16 pm »

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Parents do tend to make it all about them and their expectations for their children. When you're trans it can be much worse, since you're also transgressing the cissexist norms by which they thought would provide a stable ground to base these expectations on. He still doesn't understand that his "son" was a fantasy and all he's doing is hurting his daughter.

That said. *hugs*
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87426 on: January 24, 2015, 11:36:35 pm »

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My sad: Gender politics.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87427 on: January 24, 2015, 11:37:51 pm »

inb4 sjw support bandwagon
What does this mean?

That Yoink is being an insensitive douche?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87428 on: January 24, 2015, 11:39:57 pm »

My sad: Gender politics.
Yes, I also think it's sad that AlleeCat's dad is trying to hammer his daughter into the wrong niche because he's bought into the political idea that it's how it should be.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87429 on: January 24, 2015, 11:40:02 pm »

@Aleecat: I had a thought after reading that which makes no sense, maybe he can think about it in a hermaphroditic way?

As I said, it makes absolutely no sense and I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about either, so, feel free to ignore that, lol XD

More seriously though, no idea how to help or what to say to ya.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87430 on: January 24, 2015, 11:43:21 pm »

My sad: Gender politics.
Yes, I also think it's sad that AlleeCat's dad is trying to hammer his daughter into the wrong niche because he's bought into the political idea that it's how it should be.
... not quite, but we'll go with that anyway.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87431 on: January 24, 2015, 11:50:26 pm »

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To put into consideration, the reasoning is various and large, but also be reminded that beliefs change from time to time--he may have underlying beliefs which causes him to, somehow, see you(?) as a person being changed because of...gender.
Which is an ultimately minor portion comprising who you are, as its a holistic thing. If its possible, inquire with the counselor to approach that topic to explain it. What you're seeing there, from my guess, is one person's viewpoint without knowing certain ideas on why that viewpoint is hurtful.
In those cases--they don't think about those blessings to compare, but rather something pertinent to the situation on what they think is being lost (which is why I ask to approach the counselor or any other third-party, so other viewpoints can aid you; when one has...a significant assumption of who you are, that really doesn't match reality or how things really are, it'd be varyingly difficult to persuade otherwise, depending on the agreeability of the person. But a general baseline is to keep on inquiring under the face of misunderstanding intent, rather than concluding and judging.)

Still: *hugs much*
We're in a time and age where old beliefs are being refurbished into better beliefs, though.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87432 on: January 25, 2015, 12:09:45 am »

Eh, Oldschool men are all about having sons. Something something someone to identify with.
They end up building up this 'having a son' into a pipe dream consisting of throwing balls and getting help with the car, and then when they end up having nothing but daughters or god forbid, a son who ends up being effeminate, they have it all shattered.
Of course, when they Do actually have a son that's exactly like the son they want, it's shattered anyway because he's a teenager and he hates you.


I think Audrey Hepbern is perfect in the 'Smoky Dark Eyes' department.
But that seems to be the man focal point of Every photo.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87433 on: January 25, 2015, 12:19:20 am »

Went to family counseling today. Normally it's not bad, but this time my dad started crying about how "he's mourning his son" and how "his son is gone and a person he doesn't know has replaced him."

I tried to put a happy spin on it and tell him that in losing a son he's gained a daughter but he didn't even let me finish before snapping back at me. "Oh shut up! It's not even about that!" So I bit my tongue at sat in seething silence until he was done crying like a baby because his family didn't turn out the way he'd hoped.

What I wanted to say was, "Oh be quiet. You don't even know how good you have it right now. You're working your dream job and you have a wife who loves you. You have two (in your own words) incredibly smart daughters and dozens upon dozens of hugely supportive friends. You have a house. You have two cats and a dog. What do I have? I barely have a roof over my head. I'm unemployed, on food stamps, almost all of the few friends I have live in other states or countries and I've only ever had one relationship that lasted over a month. Stop making out like you're the victim because one thing out of the myriad hopes and dreams you had as a kid didn't pan out. You have it better than a lot of people, including me. You want a son? Go adopt a fucking son. I've never been your son and I was never going to be. Get the fuck over it and definitely stop trying to guilt trip me over something that's not even my fault."

What I actually said was, "Yea, I understand that."

Maybe because it's his only problem he sees it as much larger? In any case, it's not particularly justifiable.

At least he seems generally okay with you being female. I hope things pan out better for you in the long run.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #87434 on: January 25, 2015, 01:48:02 am »

Why are everyone's parents complete jerks?
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