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[Furtuka]

Was it really necessary to go into that much detail to deride a cruddy joke?

Just trying to make this a learning experience my dear Tawa *thumbs up*

So yes

[smeeprocket]

I have no one to play Dino D-Day with.

It's 99 cents on Steam people. I'm a sad panda because the DLC is only a little more and I could totally co-op that with someone else. But no one wants to play.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

The medication I got prescribed for sleep, depression and anxiety. (Teva-Trazodone) didn't help at all.
I have taken it for a week and it didn't help me sleep, I had a panic attack visiting the library yesterday, and today I'm gloomy and apathetic again.

My mom's family came over, we watched Big Hero Six (which was great) and then I got guilted into going with them skating. I don't own skates.
I get told "come and spend time with your family Kal" and then went and sat alone in the snow for half an hour before I convinced my grandfather to drive me home. Fun Christmas Eve, right? Depressed and alone in the snow.

[smeeprocket]

The medication I got prescribed for sleep, depression and anxiety. (Teva-Trazodone) didn't help at all.
I have taken it for a week and it didn't help me sleep, I had a panic attack visiting the library yesterday, and today I'm gloomy and apathetic again.

My mom's family came over, we watched Big Hero Six (which was great) and then I got guilted into going with them skating. I don't own skates.
I get told "come and spend time with your family Kal" and then went and sat alone in the snow for half an hour before I convinced my grandfather to drive me home. Fun Christmas Eve, right? Depressed and alone in the snow.

oh man, trazodone. God that stuff was brutal.

Honestly, if you have hardcore anxiety, they will fuck around forever when the only solution sometimes is benzodiapines. I had to fight kicking and screaming to get xanax, and now I want to switch doctors, and have to find a female doctor that will prescribe it.

If you're having legit panic attacks, trazodone probably isn't going to solve it. But keep in mind, I'm not a doctor. You are sort of at their mercy either way.

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand. (don't do that, that is not a suggestion to do that.) You sleep problems are probably just a symptom of the other issues. You don't want meds that make you sleepy if you can help it, I'm on a few and they sometimes make my head feel like it is full of wool.

Actually I have this problem where my anxiety will get so bad that I have to decide between being crippled by it, or going unconscious. Because the amount of xanax that will counteract it will just knock me out.

Do you have a therapist or just a shrink? therapists are really good for managing problems in ways that help the meds. Also, sometimes it takes up to a month or so for the meds to work. But trazodone... eesh.

[Cheeetar]

I have no one to play Dino D-Day with.

It's 99 cents on Steam people. I'm a sad panda because the DLC is only a little more and I could totally co-op that with someone else. But no one wants to play.

I'd offer to play with, but generally when I play internet games with Americans the latency on my end is completely unbearable.

[Worldmaster27]

* Worldmaster27 plops down next to Kal, in the snow.

*hugs*

Christmas always seems to make regular sad things into particularly sucky things.

And you're not alone! You have a bunch of random internet denizens who care about you!

[AlleeCat]

I have no one to play Dino D-Day with.

It's 99 cents on Steam people. I'm a sad panda because the DLC is only a little more and I could totally co-op that with someone else. But no one wants to play.

I would play with you, but I don't have a reliable internet situation right now.

[smeeprocket]

Also, if it gets serious, there are hotlines you can call.

Just... be careful. I've known people that have been gaslighted by the people on the other end of the phone calling those hotlines. Like, multiple times.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand.

It took two therapists, a doctor, my school councilor and me almost commiting suicide to get my mom to stop yelling at me for getting an 80% as my math final grade. Not even to get her to stop bugging me about marks, to get her to stop freaking out at me and trying to force me to retake my diploma. And even that only lasted for two weeks...
I have no idea how I would convince her I have a problem. Actually die?

Do you have a therapist or just a shrink? therapists are really good for managing problems in ways that help the meds. Also, sometimes it takes up to a month or so for the meds to work. But trazodone... eesh.

Both, and I am going to see a psychiatrist on January 3rd.
The therapist wants me to wait and see what the psychiatrist says, and the doctor doesn't want to prescribe any medication at all... It took effort to even get trazadone from him. And there aren't any other doctors open unless I want to drive an hour to see them.

[WillowLuman]

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand.

It took two therapists, a doctor, my school councilor and me almost commiting suicide to get my mom to stop yelling at me for getting an 80% as my math final grade. Not even to get her to stop bugging me about marks, to get her to stop freaking out at me and trying to force me to retake my diploma. And even that only lasted for two weeks...
I have no idea how I would convince her I have a problem. Actually die?

I guarantee this is not a good solution. I don't know what it will take either, but even if that worked it wouldn't do you any good.

Have you already completed your diploma? What level is it?

[smeeprocket]

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand.

It took two therapists, a doctor, my school councilor and me almost commiting suicide to get my mom to stop yelling at me for getting an 80% as my math final grade. Not even to get her to stop bugging me about marks, to get her to stop freaking out at me and trying to force me to retake my diploma. And even that only lasted for two weeks...
I have no idea how I would convince her I have a problem. Actually die?

Do you have a therapist or just a shrink? therapists are really good for managing problems in ways that help the meds. Also, sometimes it takes up to a month or so for the meds to work. But trazodone... eesh.

Both, and I am going to see a psychiatrist on January 3rd.
The therapist wants me to wait and see what the psychiatrist says, and the doctor doesn't want to prescribe any medication at all... It took effort to even get trazadone from him. And there aren't any other doctors open unless I want to drive an hour to see them.

weird psychs will usually throw meds at you. Hell, as an experiment, and because I thought it might actually work, I convinced my shrink to prescribe me adderall along with my xanax. Then I requested 40 mg a day. The dosage starts at 10mg, she went along with it. I ended up just taking .25 mg and refilling it once every 8 months because that shit is... well it's not good if you have anxiety. I finally just stopped taking it. It was really nice for not feeling sedated all the time, but not worth the added teeth grating, which actually worsened my TMJ (which comes from a lifetime of teeth grating.)

My shrink doesn't care at all, I have pretty much just told her what I need scripts for and she goes along with it. This is probably not a good course of action, but it has worked out, at any rate.

Most shrinks aren't going to be that permissive though, nor should they be.

Trazodone is really rough stuff if I remember currently. I did try a lot of medications during that time, so I could be wrong. The thing is, with crippling anxiety, the antidepressants/anti anxiety drugs don't really work that well. And taking benzodiapines can lead to dependency and it's hard to get a doctor to prescribe them. Many doctors just have a rule to never prescribe them.

It's different for everyone, but I found, for depression, effexor really worked for me, but the XR version didn't work at all (nor does any drug in XR form.) I also take a mood stabilizer and anti psychotic and xanax, so I'm on a bit of a cocktail.

The problem with effexor is trying to get off it. You get really ill and get bad flu-like symptoms for a few months. Geodon, my anti-psychotic... no, you are not getting off of that. I have tried lowering my dosage with approval from my shrink. The withdrawal is unbearable. I've gone a day or so without it before, you feel horrible, you will absolutely not sleep, you feel anxious and dizzy.

it seems like your therapist should be giving you ways to manage your depression and anxiety that are within your abilities while you wait for meds to work or be changed, though.

Unfortunately, getting the right medication takes a long time. But if you can get a good doctor that is an hour away, drive that hour.

It sounds like your mom is just abusing you. There's no good way to fix that. As I've said to others, and each time it is equally important, your problems are very real, and you matter. It's just a bad situation.

[Descan]

Can one of you explain the difference there? Therapist versus shrink?

Last time I asked, someone crawled up my ass about using the term pejoratively, when all I was doing was asking what the hell the difference is, because I've never heard it used in this manner.

[Spehss _]

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand.

It took two therapists, a doctor, my school councilor and me almost commiting suicide to get my mom to stop yelling at me for getting an 80% as my math final grade. Not even to get her to stop bugging me about marks, to get her to stop freaking out at me and trying to force me to retake my diploma. And even that only lasted for two weeks...
I have no idea how I would convince her I have a problem. Actually die?

Kal, yer mum is a psychopath and you should just ignore everything she says or does. Not literally ignore, but don't let her or the rest of your family drag you down. I'm a hardcore perfectionist and not even I would scream at my (hypothetical) kid about getting an 80 in math. Yer mum is mad whack yo.

[smeeprocket]

Your family needs to understand that you are sick, and you can't just be unsick when they want to go socialize. Getting them to understand this is hard. My parents threw me at shrinks my whole life and it wasn't until I attempted suicide that they actually bothered to try to care or understand.

It took two therapists, a doctor, my school councilor and me almost commiting suicide to get my mom to stop yelling at me for getting an 80% as my math final grade. Not even to get her to stop bugging me about marks, to get her to stop freaking out at me and trying to force me to retake my diploma. And even that only lasted for two weeks...
I have no idea how I would convince her I have a problem. Actually die?

Kal, yer mum is a psychopath and you should just ignore everything she says or does. Not literally ignore, but don't let her or the rest of your family drag you down. I'm a hardcore perfectionist and not even I would scream at my (hypothetical) kid about getting an 80 in math. Yer mum is mad whack yo.

yea shutting that kind of thing out is easier said than done. Better to learn how to manage it so it doesn't crowd your brain out with terrible destructive thoughts.

Descan, a therapist helps you manage your problems, you talk to them, they provide insight that hopefully allows you to come to your own conclusions and also they can teach you mental hacks to better manage anxiety and depression and stuff. Nothing that will make it go away, but it's really important.

A shrink, (and screw them if they get offended by the term, they are all awful anyway,) or psychiatrist throws pills at your problems and pretends to listen when you talk to them. They are sometimes a necessary evil, but should be avoided if possible and if just therapy can help, also they are terrible at therapy itself and should not be used for such.

[Cptn Kaladin Anrizlokum]

Can I just say that having all these questions/things I feel I should comment on is starting to freak me out, and I am considering just avoiding bay12 for the rest of the night instead of answering? Help.

Have you already completed your diploma? What level is it?

I finished highschool math IB (30 IB level) with an 80% (It was a 90 before the finals, but my parents yelled at me for two weeks and I was too panicked to get good marks (even though I was told by the school counselor later that it was a very hard test and most people got less than 60)) and then my mom phoned the school and dropped my Calculus IB course so I could redo the final exam of math 30.