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[LeoLeonardoIII]

There are ways in which a tribe of 20 works differently from a tribe of 2 or 200,000 but I think this holds pretty well.

[Tiruin]

Let me make this clearer:
I like how you are able to make it so...'simple' on the matters of hostility of 'tribes'. >_>
It's as if its only on matters of want want want get get get.
Survival of the fittest fallacy and such.
^{Let's leave out the human aspect to it, shall we?}

[Graknorke]

Let me make this clearer:
I like how you are able to make it so...'simple' on the matters of hostility of 'tribes'. >_>
It's as if its only on matters of want want want get get get.
Survival of the fittest fallacy and such.
^{Let's leave out the human aspect to it, shall we?}

I don't understand your complaint.

[Tiruin]

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Let me make this clearer:
I like how you are able to make it so...'simple' on the matters of hostility of 'tribes'. >_>
It's as if its only on matters of want want want get get get.
Survival of the fittest fallacy and such.
^{Let's leave out the human aspect to it, shall we?}

I don't understand your complaint.

"I can rob all I want if there are no police. I can steal all the food I want if everyone else is diplomatic. I can not care all I want even if others do.

"But it isn't like I've a choice not to do it."

I mean really. If there are people who believe safety measures or such security needs should exist only so people won't do x or y [bad thing], then dear goodness what is that.

[RedKing]

I mean really. If there are people who believe safety measures or such security needs should exist only so people won't do x or y [bad thing], then dear goodness what is that.

Err....Hobbesian philosophy?

[Tiruin]

Nah, I got what Hobbes is talking about, but the matters deal with resources and such. If there's not enough, there's not much to do other than either multiply it or lessen the demand somehow.

But the matters being talked about is wholly different. The bare concept of hostility and how to deal with it. Why things exist to prevent it. Why we have a choice.

[Sirus]

I had no choice but to walk over a freshly-mopped floor, leaving shoeprints in my wake. Right in front of the person who was mopping them.

I feel like such a horrible person 

[mastahcheese]

I had no choice but to walk over a freshly-mopped floor, leaving shoeprints in my wake. Right in front of the person who was mopping them.

I feel like such a horrible person 

I've done this too, but if you have no choice, then you can't help it.

And yeah, people taking advantage over things, simply because they can is really annoying, and makes everyone else look bad, too.
Why can't people just be kind?

[Tiruin]

I had no choice but to walk over a freshly-mopped floor, leaving shoeprints in my wake. Right in front of the person who was mopping them.

I feel like such a horrible person 

I've done this too, but if you have no choice, then you can't help it.

I said sorry last time it happened. :x
The person on the job just gave a tiny smile and nodded.
But argh. DIRT.

[Graknorke]

If there are people who believe safety measures or such security needs should exist only so people won't do x or y [bad thing], then dear goodness what is that.

Well what else are they for? The police has lists of things they're supposed to stop people doing then they go and stop people doing those things. Also they close off roads and direct traffic sometimes.

[mastahcheese]

If there are people who believe safety measures or such security needs should exist only so people won't do x or y [bad thing], then dear goodness what is that.

Well what else are they for? The police has lists of things they're supposed to stop people doing then they go and stop people doing those things. Also they close off roads and direct traffic sometimes.

That's not the point.

The point is that if people would be kind enough to not break rules, then we wouldn't need someone around for the sole sake of enforcing it.

[UltraValican]

Goddammit its been two fucking months, two goddamn months and NOW I start crying like a petulant child. I'm a fucking wreck right now, I can't eat, I can't sleep, and I can't get any goddamn work done without collapsing into a depressed pile of tears and disappointment. The day after, I thought I would be fine. "I can do this" I foolishly thought, "I'll pull through!". These were the lies I told myself for a week. Then everything was quiet for a while. Then I realized the significance of that event and it all came crashing down. That's when the water works came, I don't think I've cried harder in years. I was this close to having a nervous fucking breakdown, and was very fucking close to lunging at someone I hate for no real good reason at all. I nearly broke my foot kicking a brick wall after I made sure I was alone. I am incredibly disappointed in myself. Holy shit and -breakdown-

[Knit tie]

If there are people who believe safety measures or such security needs should exist only so people won't do x or y [bad thing], then dear goodness what is that.

Well what else are they for? The police has lists of things they're supposed to stop people doing then they go and stop people doing those things. Also they close off roads and direct traffic sometimes.

That's not the point.

The point is that if people would be kind enough to not break rules, then we wouldn't need someone around for the sole sake of enforcing it.

I'd just like to mention that a spoonful of mud is enough to ruin a barrel of honey, while the reverse is not true. Or that, if we have 99 law-abiding, very nice people who would not murder a rich guy for his wallet and one violent bandit who would, said rich guy would get murdered as opposed to staying alive if there were no bandits, while if we had 99 bandits and one non-bandit, the rich guy would not get murdered any less than he would if there were 100 bandits, id est, just one man who does not wish to abide by the laws can inflict enough damage to society to merit enforcing those laws.

In other words, all we need to justify the existence of police is only one criminal per time unit per settlement, and therefore the existence of law enforcement in no way indicates that humans are inherently opposed to lawfulness.

Sorry for the rambling post, it's late here.

Goddammit its been two fucking months, two goddamn months and NOW I start crying like a petulant child. I'm a fucking wreck right now, I can't eat, I can't sleep, and I can't get any goddamn work done without collapsing into a depressed pile of tears and disappointment. The day after, I thought I would be fine. "I can do this" I foolishly thought, "I'll pull through!". These were the lies I told myself for a week. Then everything was quiet for a while. Then I realized the significance of that event and it all came crashing down. That's when the water works came, I don't think I've cried harder in years. I was this close to having a nervous fucking breakdown, and was very fucking close to lunging at someone I hate for no real good reason at all. I nearly broke my foot kicking a brick wall after I made sure I was alone. I am incredibly disappointed in myself. Holy shit and -breakdown-

I hope nobody died, that event you are referring to must've been horrible.

[NobodyPro]

I may have failed my driving test but at least this time I failed based on my (in)ability to drive and not my bookkeeping.

Third time's a charm.

[Lagslayer]

The roof is leaking. I fear that at least that section is going to collapse soon. I also fear that the landlord would sooner just tear the house down then pay for repairs, because she is cheap and made other stupid decisions(to be fair, though, the whole house needs to be rebuilt from scratch, anyways). Moving out would probably mean living in a much too small place and it still costing way more than what it takes to rent this house. Real estate is ridiculous around here, and I don't know why. Maybe if we could get something out away from the city, it would be cheaper, but then it's hard to find those places and still have a sewage system, cable, etc.. Physically moving our stuff would be a trial all it's own.

I may have failed my driving test but at least this time I failed based on my (in)ability to drive and not my bookkeeping.

Third time's a charm.

I remember taking the driver's test once, and a couple of the questions directly contradicted the study material they gave me.