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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72255 on: March 31, 2014, 06:40:49 pm »

It's not related to the current discussion, but this article from the UN made me sad: http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploads/IPCC_WG2AR5_SPM_Approved.pdf
Also, the BBC article: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-26810559

Also, I was stuck at home all day due to a massive blizzard that's been going on for about 12 hours (~10-12 inches of snow so far).  :(
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72256 on: March 31, 2014, 07:08:32 pm »

Writing a depressed character.

I can't help but feel bad for him :(
I always feel bad when I have to play or write a depressed character :-[. And they are always depressed because they have severe PTSD because our gamemaster for this year doesn't like it when we steal the spotlight from his pet NPC and kills half the party in a needlessly gruesome manner on a regular basis so that we have to rely on whatever last survivor of an ancient and glorious race/cult/clan/organisation he currently wants to imagine himself as.
I can't write sad characters because its either my empathy that drives me to tears or a welling feeling of :( when I re-read to edit, or that I can relate to whatever sad the character is having--regardless of my experience of it or not.
Heh, I know the feeling. Oddly enough, though, the "I can't write" problem for me is the opposite - I do better when my characters are upset for one reason or another. I guess it helps to have a reason to try to pull them out of that mire of misery and despair, something for them to look forwards to and press onwards towards. I can't write happy characters too well because they feel flat to me.

This is a common problem among many people, as far as I can tell, prevalent enought to birth the entire "true art is about suffering" misconception. My advice for when you are writing a happy character and cannot help but feel that he or she has no distinct personality is to try and do what I call "working from the extreme". This is a very common, very basic trick for creative distinctive ways in which your characters act and it consists of, essentially, exagerrating the character's traits and actions to a ridiculous degree while writing him or her so that you have a clear idea of their behaviour, and then toning it down to a believable level.

To illustrate:
John Lobb enters his kitchen. He is angry. What is his most extreme imaginable reaction to being angry in a kitchen? He is impulsive, so he grabs a sledgehammer and smashes the hell out of his stove. So now you have a good idea of what form his actions will take and can tone it down to merely opening and closing his cupboards very loudly and forcefully while searching for salt.

Or, Urist is in the food stockpile. What is the most extreme thing he can do? Hastily grab a fistful of food from every barrel, stuff himself until he cannot eat enymore and then walk roll up to a booze barrel and spill it all over himself as he tries to pour it in his mouth. Tone it down a bit and you now understand that Urist occasionally overindulges and has a poor spatial awareness.
No, no. I mean, happy characters. Characters who are lighthearted and don't have any problems whatsoever make the whole story feel kind of boring to me when I'm writing it. To compensate, I either give them problems, or make them joke around a lot. lol
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72257 on: March 31, 2014, 08:18:16 pm »

I don't think I want to speak up when I'm with friends anymore. They either outright ignore me or make it obvious that they don't care what I have to say.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72258 on: March 31, 2014, 08:20:10 pm »

I don't think I want to speak up when I'm with friends anymore. They either outright ignore me or make it obvious that they don't care what I have to say.
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« Reply #72259 on: March 31, 2014, 08:21:49 pm »

I don't think I want to speak up when I'm with friends anymore. They either outright ignore me or make it obvious that they don't care what I have to say.
Y?
I guess I'm just plain boring.
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« Reply #72260 on: March 31, 2014, 08:23:33 pm »

That...isn't a logical reason at all.

Did you reflect on the matter? Did you ask them about it? Did you talk to anyone in regard to that opinion about it?
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« Reply #72261 on: March 31, 2014, 08:28:33 pm »

That...isn't a logical reason at all.

Did you reflect on the matter? Did you ask them about it? Did you talk to anyone in regard to that opinion about it?
Keeping my mouth shut is kind of easier.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72262 on: March 31, 2014, 08:38:37 pm »

>__>
That doesn't help, and confines you to only your interpretation of things. See what I'm getting at, here?
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72263 on: March 31, 2014, 08:40:19 pm »

Could be that your friends are jerks, or that you're misinterpreting things, or that you're doing something they don't like but won't speak up about (see: them being jerks).
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72264 on: March 31, 2014, 09:52:19 pm »

So, I have a total of 3 people in RL that I call my friends.

Tomorrow, one of them is leaving town, and I'll likely never see them in person again.

And they still won't have access to a computer for another half a year.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72265 on: March 31, 2014, 10:05:00 pm »

My computer is broken.

It's like someone somewhere has a list of my "sentimental things" and is ticking them off.
Also the day just got really boring.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72266 on: March 31, 2014, 11:20:54 pm »

My heart hurts.

Too much laughter Dx
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72267 on: April 01, 2014, 01:11:51 am »

Writing a depressed character.

I can't help but feel bad for him :(
I always feel bad when I have to play or write a depressed character :-[. And they are always depressed because they have severe PTSD because our gamemaster for this year doesn't like it when we steal the spotlight from his pet NPC and kills half the party in a needlessly gruesome manner on a regular basis so that we have to rely on whatever last survivor of an ancient and glorious race/cult/clan/organisation he currently wants to imagine himself as.
I can't write sad characters because its either my empathy that drives me to tears or a welling feeling of :( when I re-read to edit, or that I can relate to whatever sad the character is having--regardless of my experience of it or not.
Heh, I know the feeling. Oddly enough, though, the "I can't write" problem for me is the opposite - I do better when my characters are upset for one reason or another. I guess it helps to have a reason to try to pull them out of that mire of misery and despair, something for them to look forwards to and press onwards towards. I can't write happy characters too well because they feel flat to me.

This is a common problem among many people, as far as I can tell, prevalent enought to birth the entire "true art is about suffering" misconception. My advice for when you are writing a happy character and cannot help but feel that he or she has no distinct personality is to try and do what I call "working from the extreme". This is a very common, very basic trick for creative distinctive ways in which your characters act and it consists of, essentially, exagerrating the character's traits and actions to a ridiculous degree while writing him or her so that you have a clear idea of their behaviour, and then toning it down to a believable level.

To illustrate:
John Lobb enters his kitchen. He is angry. What is his most extreme imaginable reaction to being angry in a kitchen? He is impulsive, so he grabs a sledgehammer and smashes the hell out of his stove. So now you have a good idea of what form his actions will take and can tone it down to merely opening and closing his cupboards very loudly and forcefully while searching for salt.

Or, Urist is in the food stockpile. What is the most extreme thing he can do? Hastily grab a fistful of food from every barrel, stuff himself until he cannot eat enymore and then walk roll up to a booze barrel and spill it all over himself as he tries to pour it in his mouth. Tone it down a bit and you now understand that Urist occasionally overindulges and has a poor spatial awareness.
No, no. I mean, happy characters. Characters who are lighthearted and don't have any problems whatsoever make the whole story feel kind of boring to me when I'm writing it. To compensate, I either give them problems, or make them joke around a lot. lol

They can be very useful for relieving the reader's tension between or even during high-conflict episodes. Kind of like R&R in the military. Comic relief. Because what you'll most likely get if you have an exclusively sad, traumatised or dysfunctional cast is a syndrome called darkness-induced audience apathy, when the reader loses the ability to sympathise with your characters because they are boring in the inevitability of their misery. Masterful execution is a surefire cure, as usual, but anything less, and chances are, your story will be left abandoned in the middle because the audience simply doesn't care about it anymore.

I'm sorry, I am ranting about my personal pet peeve here.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72268 on: April 01, 2014, 01:32:10 am »

My head hurts. It has been hurting since yesterday morning and it continues to hurt. Can't exercise, because that makes it hurt worse. Can't do shit. Blood pressure elevated. Scared for my prospects. Pilots do not have blood pressure problems. Neither did I, but hello beautiful, I herd it's time for you to enlist, I'm your friendly fuck-up-yo-life disease. Must visit doctor. Apathetic. Must write to people. Also apathetic. May already be late for all I know.

I'll just go and pretend I'm a dead seal washed up on the beach.

Damn, Avis, you wanted to enlist as a pilot and your blood pressure stabbed you in the back like this?
I dunno yet, maybe it will still turn out okay. But nothing like this has happened before and it's freaking me out massively in addition to hurting like fuck. I already related this in the WTF thread - I was doing my usual pull-ups when there was this sudden sharp pain in the back of my head and then a headache for the rest of the day.
Now it's happened again. I dearly hope this is doctor-fixable.
You may have simply displaced one of your spine segments. It happens occasionally when you pull up, or push up in a slightly wrong way, and it causes you to feel various unpleasant stuff as the nerves that exit your spine column are clinched between your spine's bony bits. Have you tried doing careful stretches?

OK, now that I thought about that... it was sudden, so it's not chronic, and it developed after a single act of physical activity, so it's some kind of trauma, displacement or physiological reaction.

Your brain is fine, since you didn't mention vomiting or confusion or what-have-you symptomatic to that, so there's at least that, so we're left with nerves sans brain and skeleton plus blood vessels.

Huh. I literally just found THIS while reading up, but it is dubious for now, especially one of the criteria.
Thanks, you bros, that helped me calm down a bit. Now I must visit the doc ASAP, because I have only three months left until D-day. But thanks.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #72269 on: April 01, 2014, 07:51:34 am »

Writing a depressed character.

I can't help but feel bad for him :(
I always feel bad when I have to play or write a depressed character :-[. And they are always depressed because they have severe PTSD because our gamemaster for this year doesn't like it when we steal the spotlight from his pet NPC and kills half the party in a needlessly gruesome manner on a regular basis so that we have to rely on whatever last survivor of an ancient and glorious race/cult/clan/organisation he currently wants to imagine himself as.
I can't write sad characters because its either my empathy that drives me to tears or a welling feeling of :( when I re-read to edit, or that I can relate to whatever sad the character is having--regardless of my experience of it or not.
Heh, I know the feeling. Oddly enough, though, the "I can't write" problem for me is the opposite - I do better when my characters are upset for one reason or another. I guess it helps to have a reason to try to pull them out of that mire of misery and despair, something for them to look forwards to and press onwards towards. I can't write happy characters too well because they feel flat to me.

This is a common problem among many people, as far as I can tell, prevalent enought to birth the entire "true art is about suffering" misconception. My advice for when you are writing a happy character and cannot help but feel that he or she has no distinct personality is to try and do what I call "working from the extreme". This is a very common, very basic trick for creative distinctive ways in which your characters act and it consists of, essentially, exagerrating the character's traits and actions to a ridiculous degree while writing him or her so that you have a clear idea of their behaviour, and then toning it down to a believable level.

To illustrate:
John Lobb enters his kitchen. He is angry. What is his most extreme imaginable reaction to being angry in a kitchen? He is impulsive, so he grabs a sledgehammer and smashes the hell out of his stove. So now you have a good idea of what form his actions will take and can tone it down to merely opening and closing his cupboards very loudly and forcefully while searching for salt.

Or, Urist is in the food stockpile. What is the most extreme thing he can do? Hastily grab a fistful of food from every barrel, stuff himself until he cannot eat enymore and then walk roll up to a booze barrel and spill it all over himself as he tries to pour it in his mouth. Tone it down a bit and you now understand that Urist occasionally overindulges and has a poor spatial awareness.
No, no. I mean, happy characters. Characters who are lighthearted and don't have any problems whatsoever make the whole story feel kind of boring to me when I'm writing it. To compensate, I either give them problems, or make them joke around a lot. lol

They can be very useful for relieving the reader's tension between or even during high-conflict episodes. Kind of like R&R in the military. Comic relief. Because what you'll most likely get if you have an exclusively sad, traumatised or dysfunctional cast is a syndrome called darkness-induced audience apathy, when the reader loses the ability to sympathise with your characters because they are boring in the inevitability of their misery. Masterful execution is a surefire cure, as usual, but anything less, and chances are, your story will be left abandoned in the middle because the audience simply doesn't care about it anymore.

I'm sorry, I am ranting about my personal pet peeve here.
Looking at you, GRRM.

My sad or at least my discontent is that whenever my attraction to a person I know (that I won't be able to 'get with' probably ever, or at the very least a significant amount of time) resurges from the usual low burn, I can't sleep. Fuck you brain stop pining over what you can't have I gotta sleep and so do you.
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