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[Harry Baldman]

>____> I don't know what kind of neural activity... or... you know, nerve cells at all a tree has.

It doesn't. It's all just chemical signals. However, even though plant information processing capabilities are quite a few orders of magnitude lesser than those of a mammal, they do indeed possess them. It is, after all, one of the basic properties of life to be able to respond to stimuli.

[Tack]

Which means that even days after you've picked the lettuce from the plant...
IT'S STILL ALIVE.

[scrdest]

Which means that even days after you've picked the lettuce from the plant...
IT'S STILL ALIVE.

Technically. If you would be strict, it would mean that whenever you eat a steak, you're eating a cow alive, too.

[LordSlowpoke]

Which means that even days after you've picked the lettuce from the plant...
IT'S STILL ALIVE.

Technically. If you would be strict, it would mean that whenever you eat a steak, you're eating a cow alive, too.

...isn't that how most people want their steaks, and say is the only right way to eat steak, anyway?

[scriver]

It's not really the same, though, since many plants have developed to actually want you to eat (at least parts of) them in order to get spread around and/or receive a pile of free manure to grow in. So when you pick a ripe fruit from the tree the message is probably less "OH GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING WHERE DID MY GENITAL GO" and more "This is Discovery XIV to Ground Control. We have have liftoff."

[Tack]

Fruit, yes. I am happy to eat seed-based foods, because then I'm just thwarting their natural reproductive process, much in the way you would eat an egg.

But to eat something like baby asparagus is just inhumane. It's got its whole life ahead of it.

[Harry Baldman]

This is why I love bay12.

I have yet to find anyone else arguing the ethics of eating plants.

Ahem.

[Helgoland]

This is why I love bay12.

I have yet to find anyone else arguing the ethics of eating plants.

Have you tried Tumblr?

[Tack]

Which means that even days after you've picked the lettuce from the plant...
IT'S STILL ALIVE.

Technically. If you would be strict, it would mean that whenever you eat a steak, you're eating a cow alive, too.

Literally, if you kept the blood pumping through it and oxygenated, then yes.
But with a plant you need only give it water and sunlight. Every (non-vacuole dominant) plant cell is capable of sustaining itself through photosynthesis. Hence why I chose lettuce. It's a leaf, and you typically wash it to make it crisp again before you eat it. Which would be similar to reviving a dead bird before you eat it.

But plant-based cruelty is just so ingrained in our genes that we don't even think about what we're doing when we pluck a potato out of the ground, carve out its eyes, peel its flesh and then boil it.


It's official. Real bleeding teeth hearts eat minerals.

[Caz]

. Hence why I chose lettuce. It's a leaf, and you typically wash it to make it crisp again before you eat it. Which would be similar to reviving a dead bird before you eat it.

Woah... first argument that makes me want to eat lettuce.

[Pnx]

I had a really shitty night's sleep. Which included the dogs going berserk at something outside multiple times in the middle of the night, me having to get up and let the dogs back in after they'd been let out because my mother had fallen asleep in her chair, my brother playing music in his room, and the sound of my brother's late night diarrhea episodes that might be fixed if he ate a decent diet.

So long story short, I got woken up multiple times between the hours of midnight and 6 AM and woke up at 10 AM with a horrible headache.

And I'm staring at this test wondering how I could make so many dumb mistakes, and wondering why I seem to be such a moron sometimes...

I really hate dealing with my issues, and being me sometimes. I hate existing on a different wavelength to 99% of the population, and dealing with... issues I'm still afraid to talk about even here. I also hate that this basically feels like the only place I'm halfway safe to express myself right now.

[scrdest]

. Hence why I chose lettuce. It's a leaf, and you typically wash it to make it crisp again before you eat it. Which would be similar to reviving a dead bird before you eat it.

Woah... first argument that makes me want to eat lettuce.

Starting from today, I'm going to scream 'IT'S ALIVE!' and cackle like a madman every time I wash lettuce.

[GiglameshDespair]

I had a really shitty night's sleep. Which included the dogs going berserk at something outside multiple times in the middle of the night, me having to get up and let the dogs back in after they'd been let out because my mother had fallen asleep in her chair, my brother playing music in his room, and the sound of my brother's late night diarrhea episodes that might be fixed if he ate a decent diet.

Sounds like you...

...had a shitty night.

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


More seriously, though, I feel ya. Suffering from insomnia lately means  I understand how it feels to not have enough sleep. Pretty terrible.

Having a place like this is really good - you can safely say your worries here without risking problems back in meatspace.

[MaximumZero]

I want to play my guitar, but it's too late at night. I want to play other games, (KSP, X-COM, etc.) but I have to be up in the morning to work, and if I start playing now, I won't stop until it will severely impact my sleep cycle. ;_; Curse you, time.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I want to play my guitar, but it's too late at night. I want to play other games, (KSP, X-COM, etc.) but I have to be up in the morning to work, and if I start playing now, I won't stop until it will severely impact my sleep cycle. ;_; Curse you, time.

Don't worry, I'm reasonably sure we eventually invent time-travel.