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[LordSlowpoke]

Gender roles are pure bullshit, plain and simple. If we spent more time doing what we wanted, instead of what other people want us to do, the world would be a much happier place.

"I just want to be who I am, a racist misogynistic asshole who harasses children going to school with unprovoked angry tirades about blood and death. Let me be who I am inside, Mr. Oppressor."

cool strawman, but i'd actually allow them to do that because the police would arrest them after a little while

now if it was molestation you were talking about it'd be an even better strawman

[Vector]

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

[misko27]

Gender roles are pure bullshit, plain and simple. If we spent more time doing what we wanted, instead of what other people want us to do, the world would be a much happier place.

"I just want to be who I am, a racist misogynistic asshole who harasses children going to school with unprovoked angry tirades about blood and death. Let me be who I am inside, Mr. Oppressor."

cool strawman, but i'd actually allow them to do that because the police would arrest them after a little while

now if it was molestation you were talking about it'd be an even better strawman

I don't know about your strawman, but I said that specifically because a guy was doing that on the train today. Not children  though, it was midday.

[BlackFlyme]

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

No-one mentioned labour, but someone claimed that women didn't even have half the muscle mass as men, which is what probably set the teacher off.

[Helgoland]

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

Not exactly what's meant, Vector. Even if it's a bad point, there's no point in misunderstanding intentionally.

[MaximumZero]

Gender roles are pure bullshit, plain and simple. If we spent more time doing what we wanted, instead of what other people want us to do, the world would be a much happier place.

"I just want to be who I am, a racist misogynistic asshole who harasses children going to school with unprovoked angry tirades about blood and death. Let me be who I am inside, Mr. Oppressor."

cool strawman, but i'd actually allow them to do that because the police would arrest them after a little while

now if it was molestation you were talking about it'd be an even better strawman

I don't know about your strawman, but I said that specifically because a guy was doing that on the train today.

And, again, if people would be who they are, instead of who they are "supposed" to be, I guarantee you a half-dozen of your fellow passengers would have cussed the guy out/shut him up.

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

No-one mentioned labour, but someone claimed that women didn't even have half the muscle mass as men, which is what probably set the teacher off.

I know it's anecdotal, but my sister always laughed at stuff like this. See, she was a powerlifter in high school, and could out deadlift the entire football team. You can even take this further and point out someone like any of the entire division of Womens' Weightlifters in the Olympics. They could all easily outmuscle even your strong average dude.

[Vector]

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

Not exactly what's meant, Vector. Even if it's a bad point, there's no point in misunderstanding intentionally.

Sorry, let me explain my reasoning.  I wasn't very clear in that post.

You have the muscles to presumably push a 9-pound sack of flesh out of your body and carry it, lift it, etc. up to an increase of 70 pounds--often picking it up, carrying it around, and putting it down all day every day while doing other work--but you can't load 70-lb boxes for UPS?  That's assuming you have only one kid, too.

That's my point.  The point is that "women's work" expressly includes a lot of heavy lifting.

[kaijyuu]

"Being yourself" does not imply "losing all self control." Also, encouraging others to act like they wish does not somehow discredit rules and laws against harming others. It does however, if they follow the advice, reveal harmful people as they are so we can deal with them rather than them slipping through the cracks.

I dunno about you, but I don't like wolves in sheep's clothing. They can do a lot of damage.

[scrdest]

women were, as a gender, too physically weak to do any types of activities such as sports or physical labour.

I always find this pretty funny.  Labor doesn't count as physical labor anymore?

Not exactly what's meant, Vector. Even if it's a bad point, there's no point in misunderstanding intentionally.

Sorry, let me explain my reasoning.  I wasn't very clear in that post.

You have the muscles to presumably push a 9-pound sack of flesh out of your body and carry it, lift it, etc. up to an increase of 70 pounds--often picking it up, carrying it around, and putting it down all day every day while doing other work--but you can't load 70-lb boxes for UPS?  That's assuming you have only one kid, too.

That's my point.  The point is that "women's work" expressly includes a lot of heavy lifting.

Nitpick: those are different muscles.

[Vector]

The "carrying around your 70-lb kid" muscles are different from "carrying around a 70-lb box" muscles?  Sincere question.

[LordSlowpoke]

...yeah, unless something is hilariously wrong with my understanding of pregnancy, it's abdominal and leg muscles doing the work. Boxes are arms/legs mostly. Back muscles are used in both.

The above assumes you're not lifting it in some ridiculous fashion. >.>

[kaijyuu]

If you've got a 70 pound baby in your stomach, something is horribly wrong.

She's talking about carrying around toddlers.

[LordSlowpoke]

i have no innate sense of how much a pound is okay

[Yoink]

Pfft. Real parents use the Elevated Overarm Piledriver mode of baby burping.

[Xantalos]

Pfft. Real parents use the Elevated Overarm Piledriver mode of baby burping.

Taking this.