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[Max White]

Today over 300 homes were destroyed or damaged in bush fires across the state. Normally we don't see fires this severe until the peak of summer, so a lot of people are worried about just how bad it might get. Half my fucking country is burning down and there is a thick cloud of smoke over Canberra. God it is depressing.
Thinking of joining the volunteer fire service for the summer, but I'm not sure if I would actually be helpful. Too small to carry a person or handle a high pressure hose and I can't drive, so feeling a little useless.

[kaijyuu]

Hmm something sad...

How about anyone with real problems seems incapable of seeing eye to eye with someone with more personal problems.

Define "real" and "personal" problems. Because I'd say personal problems are real problems.


I'm guessing you mean "external" vs "internal" problems, but not certain.

[Gamerlord]

Today over 300 homes were destroyed or damaged in bush fires across the state. Normally we don't see fires this severe until the peak of summer, so a lot of people are worried about just how bad it might get. Half my fucking country is burning down and there is a thick cloud of smoke over Canberra. God it is depressing.
Thinking of joining the volunteer fire service for the summer, but I'm not sure if I would actually be helpful. Too small to carry a person or handle a high pressure hose and I can't drive, so feeling a little useless.

Bloody hell, I forgot about that. There's only been one fire that I know of in Adelaide fortunately, but you could smell it all freaking day.

[Descan]

* Descan dumps a few million tons of water on central Australia, creates an in-land sea.

[Bauglir]

It is troublesome that it's such hard work to make myself into the sort of person who does hard work. Every day just feels a little heavier than the last. Frustrating. But this needs to happen. I am going to make a better me out of me, or die trying. Or suffer some manner of mental breakdown trying, but same basic thing.

Less important than the fires thing, though. I hope that they spread more slowly than evacuations, so there's fewer to no more casualties before they burn out.

[Harbingerjm]

Everything smells like smoke and my view's gone to shit.
>Not-combustible-world problems

[kisame12794]

Burning places. Here. Have our rain. Seriously, it's been raining damn near a week pretty damn steady. There was even a time where the only rain in the southern half of the province was over us. So depressing, especially because we can't do shit at work when it rains. You wind up sweeping the workshop all day, splitting wood, or raking leaves.

[Max White]

Actually rain is part of the problem. Heavy flooding this year has damaged bush trails, delaying back burning efforts, as such we were even less prepared for this than usual. Scorching fires and flooding rains, and nothing in between...

[Solifuge]

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If I may be an ass for a moment, I just think it should be said as part of the conclusion. It seems hypocritical to decry someone else's beliefs as unverifiable and dogmatic, using an argument based on your own unverifiable and dogmatic opinions regarding their beliefs/emotions/experiences (those being things you do not, and cannot know). If nothing else, the irony is apparent, yeah?

Also, just because you have not yet experienced unconditional concern or love for others, or given something without seeking something in exchange (not even "good feelings"), doesn't mean no one does, or that you won't experience it some day. And, when faced with other people's experiences that indicate that they have or do experience these things... well, there's nothing that makes your opinion about what they experience more valid than their own experiences, correct? In fact, aren't other people the only ones with any basis for knowing what they experience? Wouldn't thinking you know their feelings and experiences better than they do be a little arrogant, and (again) dogmatic?

Absolute knowledge is something you can't have. You can extrapolate and approximate, sure... but truly knowing another person as you know yourself is impossible. A limit we all share. As such, it's wise for us to admit the fallibility and limited scope of our observations, feelings, and opinions. None of us have seen everything, so none of us can know everything.

This is why it's important to respect opinions held by other people, even if we disagree with them.

[Max White]

Personally I don't think anybody has ever felt unconditional love, there are only those lucky enough to not have those conditions breached, and go about foolishly thinking those conditions do not exist. There is always a breaking point. Always. We are but chemicals, and as such thins of a physical nature. Perhaps it might take brain damage that removes your capacity to feel at all, but lets not be romantic about it, love is all chemistry, and it can be given, copied or extracted, theoretically at least. Just because we lack the technology to do such things is not proof of supernatural feelings that exist in some other sense than reality.
But that is taking things further than they need be. Even without looking at the brain on an molecular level, you can break a heart, you can condition one out of their feelings. Those that feel that there love is without condition are woken to a very harsh reality every day, there is always an expectation of some sort of return on investment, even if the cost isn't that great. Some will stand for another not returning their emotions, or even a level of abuse, but you can only go so far.
You might say that those who have this change of heart never really had unconditional love at all, but then I guess none of us are a true Scotsmen, right?

[scrdest]

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If I may be an ass for a moment, I just think it should be said as part of the conclusion. It seems hypocritical to decry someone else's beliefs as unverifiable and dogmatic, using an argument based on your own unverifiable and dogmatic opinions regarding their beliefs/emotions/experiences (those being things you do not, and cannot know). If nothing else, the irony is apparent, yeah?

Also, just because you have not yet experienced unconditional concern or love for others, or given something without seeking something in exchange (not even "good feelings"), doesn't mean no one does, or that you won't experience it some day. And, when faced with other people's experiences that indicate that they have or do experience these things... well, there's nothing that makes your opinion about what they experience more valid than their own experiences, correct? In fact, aren't other people the only ones with any basis for knowing what they experience? Wouldn't thinking you know their feelings and experiences better than they do be a little arrogant, and (again) dogmatic?

Absolute knowledge is something you can't have. You can extrapolate and approximate, sure... but truly knowing another person as you know yourself is impossible. A limit we all share. As such, it's wise for us to admit the fallibility and limited scope of our observations, feelings, and opinions. None of us have seen everything, so none of us can know everything.

This is why it's important to respect opinions held by other people, even if we disagree with them.

Once again, human thoughts are not magic. They have no individual existence outside the brain - someone has brain damage, he has very visible and verifiable changes in his behavioral patterns. Brain is a physical structure and can be and is studied. Human behavior, likewise, can be and is studied. Every human is unique, but it doesn't mean that his DNA uses different bases, it doesn't mean his cells are shaped differently, it doesn't mean his internal organs work in a different way - and his brain, likewise, doesn't use anything other human brains don't.

Like MSH said - would you love someone if he started committing atrocities? If one day, he woke up and decided that from now on, he will begin every day with torturing a kitten to death? If the answer is 'no', the love is not unconditional. If it is 'yes', I'm very seriously concerned. And not in the 'TAKE THAT, PERSON I'M TALKING TO!' sense, actually worried.

Your argument could be used to claim that fairies exist - after all maybe you haven't seen one, but there are people who claim they did and you can always start seeing them, so you cannot claim they don't exist.

[JoshuaFH]

So I'm not sure what to do. The counselor I went to see a long time ago, apparently I received another bill from them, for something like a $100. I don't understand WHY though, it has something to do with insurance wanting me to cover part of the cost... but I thought I already handed over my co-pay? Was this about the third meeting that I cancelled? I don't get it fully, this is unexpected. What's the point of even wanting to get therapy if I'm always going to be running into shit like this.

I'm also a little ashamed of myself today, for wanting to use a 'trick' to try to get back in touch with the girl I dated a long time ago. I just thought of it while waking up today, but while I was laying in bed I was putting the plan together in every detail. The idea being that I'd send a fake text message to her that would be written out like it was a reply to someone else, and that I'd simply sent it to her by mistake. In my imagination, of course she'd reply back wondering what the heck the text was about, and I'd explain to her, but the gist of it was that even though relations have frozen between us, this would be the new ice breaker to start things up again.

I was so excited, jumping out of bed thinking "Yes! This is what I'll do today! Finally I have a plan! This'll work, surely! This'll work! This will be the new ice breaker!!!..." and I didn't even make it to the light switch of my room before realizing how pathetic and desperate I was being. What's wrong with me.

[Helgoland]

How about a text that just says "Wassup?"? Everything will flow smoothly after that - humans are amazing at talking about nothing. Just look at Congress

[JoshuaFH]

How about a text that just says "Wassup?"? Everything will flow smoothly after that - humans are amazing at talking about nothing. Just look at Congress

I can't help but feel that at this point, that'd just be desperate fishing for attention. She made the message clear by ignoring me once, I don't need to denigrate my pride further.

My mind was just thinking about her cause I pathetically can't get anyone else in my life.  That's it...

[Dutchling]

How about a text that just says "Wassup?"? Everything will flow smoothly after that - humans are amazing at talking about nothing. Just look at Congress

I can't help but feel that at this point, that'd just be desperate fishing for attention. She made the message clear by ignoring me once, I don't need to denigrate my pride further.

My mind was just thinking about her cause I pathetically can't get anyone else in my life.  That's it...

"Hey I really A, B, C, (...), en Y, but you're probably easier to get. Wanna see a movie or something?"

If it works, it won't fail.