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Author Topic: Things that made you sad today thread.  (Read 9699236 times)

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62865 on: June 14, 2013, 07:56:49 pm »

Brilliant malice is potentially more dangerous, but far less contemptible.

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62866 on: June 14, 2013, 08:02:13 pm »

Trust me, incompetence is worse since the incompetent people inevitably become far better schemers than the original malice people.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62867 on: June 14, 2013, 08:16:38 pm »

Trust me, incompetence is worse since the incompetent people inevitably become far better schemers than the original malice people.
Explain plz. Because that doesn't make a ton of sense.
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« Reply #62868 on: June 14, 2013, 08:52:24 pm »

What I am actually doing:
j. Applying for interesting jobs I can't have and getting out from under piles of backed up correspondence and necessary maintenance of crap that went bad while I was in college/couldn't do because I was tied down, which is exhausting and killing my creative drive.

It is stuff I do actually need to do, though, like "learn to drive" and "make it so my bicycle actually works.
I'm not sure I buy this. I think you may be making some excuses for yourself here. It sounds like you've got a good thing going on with this translation and that you enjoy it - how much are you making for that? Are the jobs you're applying to involved in that? Are you making any money off the translations?

You've published a book! That's great. How many of the jobs you're implying to are based around that? If you've published a book, you look a lot more attractive than most of the other candidates after all. Are you making money off the book? How important is it you need a job right now?

You say that you want to spend more time learning how to program - how are you doing that? Are you contributing to an open source project on github yet? If not, why not - you don't need a whole lot of skill to get started, and you only need a few months of experience to get a decent job with a good starting pay, and the best way to learn is to do, as I'm sure you're aware.

How much money do you actually need? Because if you're good for the time being, instead of worrying about getting a crappy job or not getting good jobs, you're best bet is to simply start working (which you seem to be doing!) and turn that into your job, one way or another.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62869 on: June 14, 2013, 09:48:23 pm »

Kay, totally miserable right now.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62870 on: June 14, 2013, 09:54:57 pm »

Hugpile on Hans!
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« Reply #62871 on: June 14, 2013, 10:02:19 pm »

Joining in the career misery:  having severe sleep problems lately due to anxiety about going to work every day.  It's not exactly insomnia.  I just can't force myself to go to sleep, because I dread the initiation of the next work day.  I go through periods like this normally, but it got bad enough that I was too tired to feel safe driving to work.  I had to call in sick the last two days.  At work again now and feeling better, but expecting the "you can't call in again for another 6 months or you risk getting fired" talk and I know I'm just going to reach that same point again before long.
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« Reply #62872 on: June 14, 2013, 11:09:46 pm »

Today, I went to the funeral of my grandfather. He actually passed away a week or so ago, and was cremated.

Funerals are fucking depressing, man. All this talk of "eternal life" this, and "resurrection" that, and "afterlife" nonsense and the crowd spontaneously begins chanting like a cult in time with the eulogizing. I hate funerals, and don't want one. What I want is to donate my body to science, have the rest of it turned into fertilizer, and have the money that whoever would have spent on my funeral to rent out a bar and have people sit around, have a drink, and tell stories. "Oh, man, I remember that one time that Max decided to punch out a shark and got his arm bitten off. That's why he had a bionic arm." Obviously, the more outlandish, the better.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62873 on: June 14, 2013, 11:14:02 pm »

Hey, you guys remember that time Max punched the moon?

Looks much better as a ring system.

Shame about the tides, though.

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« Reply #62874 on: June 14, 2013, 11:16:57 pm »

Totally agree with the funeral sentiments.  I want people to have fun remembering me.  A little celebration in my honor and then move on.  Dead me wouldn't want to watch everyone he cares about get all broken up.
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« Reply #62875 on: June 14, 2013, 11:24:56 pm »

Hell, I'll throw a better funeral than the other stiffs! With blackjack! And hookers!
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« Reply #62876 on: June 14, 2013, 11:30:50 pm »

I'm not sure I buy this. I think you may be making some excuses for yourself here. It sounds like you've got a good thing going on with this translation and that you enjoy it - how much are you making for that? Are the jobs you're applying to involved in that? Are you making any money off the translations?

You've published a book! That's great. How many of the jobs you're implying to are based around that? If you've published a book, you look a lot more attractive than most of the other candidates after all. Are you making money off the book? How important is it you need a job right now?

You say that you want to spend more time learning how to program - how are you doing that? Are you contributing to an open source project on github yet? If not, why not - you don't need a whole lot of skill to get started, and you only need a few months of experience to get a decent job with a good starting pay, and the best way to learn is to do, as I'm sure you're aware.

How much money do you actually need? Because if you're good for the time being, instead of worrying about getting a crappy job or not getting good jobs, you're best bet is to simply start working (which you seem to be doing!) and turn that into your job, one way or another.

1. I'm not making anything right now.  I get 20% of all profits, but that's not transmitted to me regularly, and we don't get much in the way of profits because we're two mathematicians who self-published a book of Russian poetry translations from a woman who is famously impossible to work with.  Basically, the market is extremely narrow, we have no idea what we're doing, and this could be quite large or very small.  We're working on it.  People are buying the book, though.  We also got published in Notices of the AMS and had a notice in the ArXiV, which is not where we'd need to be in order to be Successful, but is a hell of a lot better than most people do.  And kind of classy, because the first one is the US's biggest math journal, and the second is a repository of physics papers.

I am applying to one job which involves machine translation so far, and until recently I was looking into freelancing, until I found out that the market was ridiculously, painfully bad.  Also looked into a job doing specialist mathematical typesetting for a journal, and so on and so forth.  So I'm reconfiguring.

2. I need a job because my father needs to retire, and he won't retire until I have some sort of stable source of income that isn't a minimum wage service job.

3. Github is a good idea.  I will try that--I was mostly lacking in projects I wanted to do with the skills that I actually have, and github looks like a great place to work on that.

4. The problem is that I really need a track record of employment, because I don't have one (because Reasons, but whatever).  I have great credentials, but I don't have work experience.  You know, just in case the dreams don't work out.


So much of this is... I thought I went crazy because of abuse, but I realized recently that I was abused by three separate people and, though I had responses to it, I didn't have the serious problems I experienced from all three.  And I thought I went crazy because I was working too hard, but that doesn't make sense, either, logically speaking.  My problem--the problem I have been really suffering with, is that I suddenly realized that I am a square peg that has been trying to fit in the round holes society has been passing me since ever.

And that doesn't work, and I am not going to be able to do that.  And that scares the crap out of me, because there is no available narrative for my situation, and my relationship with life is so secret as to be absolutely, completely unique, wholly unrelatable to the available schemas.

So yeah.  I'll figure something out.  Just reconfiguring.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62877 on: June 14, 2013, 11:35:33 pm »

Hell, I'll throw a better funeral than the other stiffs! With blackjack! And hookers!
I have seriously considered ordering strippers* for my funeral, if I ever have the resources to plan mine. However, I have to recognize that it'd probably offend most of the people there - but dammit, I will arrange for the loved ones to have fun. I'm thinking an open bar, a variety of games, and a scavenger hunt for my urn.

*Of both sexes, obviously.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #62878 on: June 14, 2013, 11:39:58 pm »

My problem--the problem I have been really suffering with, is that I suddenly realized that I am a square peg that has been trying to fit in the round holes society has been passing me since ever.

This is exactly how I feel as well.  Not in the same ways as you, I know...  I just can't deal with operating on the same strict rhythms and routines and pretenses as everyone else.  To do so makes me deeply depressed and unmotivated.  When I describe to people the way I feel about these things, they have these stock responses that they tell themselves to feel better, but they only make me feel worse.
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« Reply #62879 on: June 14, 2013, 11:46:01 pm »

Yeah... for me, it's specifically I go down the list of things that you're supposed to find fulfilling and Endgoals in Life:

Career
Spouse (specifically, sexual relationship)
Children
Friends
Religion

And I just.  Most of those are things I don't care about at all.  The other ones are things I care about in radically different ways to what our collection of narratives calls "possible" or "acceptable."

But I want people to like me.
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