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[Truean]

Actually, that was more under the category of generalized job woes, but still.

All the little differences aside, how do you think most people would feel if their boss scheduled a meeting with them and decided to literally nap through it?

[Descan]

I may be wrong, but I think Vector was saying "I wish Vector-With-A-Cousin had a chance to grow up" instead of just "I wish my cousin had a chance to grow up"

I mean obviously she DOES wish her cousin was able to grow up, but I don't think that's ALL she was saying, ye ken?

At least, that's how I interpreted it...


Edit: If I came in on my boss napping, depending on where I was in the ladder and how the company in general and they in particular treated me (let's assume the worst), I'd probably take a photo and blackmail them.

[penguinofhonor]

I'd probably just wake them up and be like "Okay dude, I get to sleep on the job every once in a while. Fair's fair."

[Pnx]

I may be wrong, but I think Vector was saying "I wish Vector-With-A-Cousin had a chance to grow up" instead of just "I wish my cousin had a chance to grow up"

I mean obviously she DOES wish her cousin was able to grow up, but I don't think that's ALL she was saying, ye ken?

At least, that's how I interpreted it...

I...
*rereads the post*

Yeah I see what you mean there, that sort of throws half my point in the toilet. Whoops... Still the other half still stands, she's a genuinly very wonderful person just as she is.

[Truean]

....

He actually complained about my bill.... This lawyer I'm working for.

Let me explain, most of you out there are making more than I am in your jobs than I am off this guy.... It is embarrassingly low pay for a lawyer. Not my fault your case is shit. You've still gotta file things on it or else you'll automatically lose.

I just looked straight through him and zoned the hell out. He kept asking what's wrong. "Nothing." I'm gonna keep saying "nothing" til he figures out its' something.

So I'm gonna finish up the work for him I currently have and say "fire me or pay me."

I put up with a lot of shit.... More than I will ever fully tell you. I've reached the great wall of fuck it with this guy.

[Vector]

Descan was right.

It's not that I feel like I'm a bad person or something like that, you know?  It's that I've felt like I was carrying something very heavy ever since then.  I'm not really sure what it is, how to articulate its form, whatever.  I gained a peculiar gravity.  Whether this is good or bad, I don't know, but it feels a touch strange.

[ChairmanPoo]

Truean: why not simply speak your mind to the guy? I mean, instead of the "nothing" thing. (Just a suggestion)

[Truean]

Because it's blatantly obvious what's wrong.... He can't not know it while having a pulse and practicing law....

He wanted me to do all his time consuming work....

Now he's upset the work is consuming time....

Given that he's paying me by the hour, that means he has to open up his wallet and let some fresh air in. He doesn't like that because like much of the rest of the world right now, he doesn't wanna pay for anything, but wants everything.

[ChairmanPoo]

Because it's blatantly obvious what's wrong.... He can't not know it while having a pulse and practicing law....

You'd be surprised how obvlivious people can be.  Besides, often malicious individuals fold like accordions when faced off, whereas keeping silent might encourage them to escalate.

Spoiler: Relevant quote (click to show/hide)

And it happened that as we were coming to a place called Almorox
when they were gathering the grapes, a grape picker gave him a
bunch as alms.  And since the baskets are usually handled pretty
roughly and the grapes were very ripe at the time, the bunch
started to fall apart in his hand.  If we had thrown it in the
sack, it and everything it touched would have spoiled.  He
decided that we'd have a picnic so that it wouldn't go to waste--
and he did it to please me, too, since he'd kicked and beat me
quite a bit that day.  So we sat down on a low wall, and he said:
"Now I want to be generous with you: we'll share this bunch of
grapes, and you can eat as many as I do.  We'll divide it like
this: you take one, then I'll take one.  But you have to promise
me that you won't take more than one at a time.  I'll do the same
until we finish, and that way there won't be any cheating."
 
The agreement was made, and we began.  But on his second turn,
the traitor changed his mind and began to take two at a time,
evidently thinking that I was doing the same.  But when I saw
that he had broken our agreement, I wasn't satisfied with going
at his rate of speed.  Instead, I went even further: I took two
at a time, or three at a time--in fact, I ate them as fast as I
could.  And when there weren't any grapes left, he just sat there
for a while with the stem in his hand, and then he shook his head
and said, "Lazaro, you tricked me.  I'll swear to God that you
ate these grapes three at a time."
 
"No, I didn't," I said.  "But why do you think so?"
 
That wise old blind man answered, "Do you know how I see that you
ate them three at a time?  Because I was eating them two at a
time, and you didn't say a word."
- Excerpt from "THE LIFE OF LAZARILLO OF TORMES,
 HIS FORTUNES AND MISFORTUNES
AS TOLD BY HIMSELF", Anonymous

http://www.lazarillodetormes.com/ingles.htm

[Truean]

....

He knows. He actively doesn't care.

People don't work that way. Never have. Talking to the bully never ever works, worked, or will work.

I have to figure out the best way out of this and/or if I can scale it back so he gives me something.... [sigh] Feeling very unappreciated from this and several other things.

This is called being in a weaker position, having the other side know it and take advantage of it....

Praying I get that accounting job....

[Pnx]

Descan was right.

It's not that I feel like I'm a bad person or something like that, you know?  It's that I've felt like I was carrying something very heavy ever since then.  I'm not really sure what it is, how to articulate its form, whatever.  I gained a peculiar gravity.  Whether this is good or bad, I don't know, but it feels a touch strange.

You got emotionally scarred, it happens...
a lot...

They say they heal eventually, but just like real scars it seems to take a really long time.

There's a certain argument that this sort of thing adds character, that it gave you valuable experiences in... well... what it's like to be hurt I guess.

Also I hear chicks dig emotional scars.

[ChairmanPoo]

People don't work that way. Never have. Talking to the bully never ever works, worked, or will work.

Has worked for me for years. In fact, just last week I had TWO hierarchical superiors fold up like accordions during confrontations. What has never worked for me is putting up with abuse. I'm willing to admit that everyone is not the same, but I think that disregarding a diplomatic solution from beforehand is hasty, in general.

[RedKing]

Descan was right.

It's not that I feel like I'm a bad person or something like that, you know?  It's that I've felt like I was carrying something very heavy ever since then.  I'm not really sure what it is, how to articulate its form, whatever.  I gained a peculiar gravity.  Whether this is good or bad, I don't know, but it feels a touch strange.

You got emotionally scarred, it happens...
a lot...

They say they heal eventually, but just like real scars it seems to take a really long time.

There's a certain argument that this sort of thing adds character, that it gave you valuable experiences in... well... what it's like to be hurt I guess.

Also I hear chicks dig emotional scars.

Heh. Well, it does add character. Not necessarily the grimdark antihero Rule of Cool kind of character either. It's more like...larger perspective. You stop worrying so much about petty distractional bullshit compared to your peers (which can be very alienating, if all your peers are tuned into the bullshit).

I think it's why I never feel comfortable around peer groups my own age. I'd much rather hang with people older (because I've always felt old beyond my years -- was raised by people in their 50s/60s/70s and being an only child in a fairly rural area, their peer group became my peer group) or people considerably younger (not sure why, but I felt at home in grad school with classmates 7-10 years my junior and I feel at home here with y'all youngins )

[penguinofhonor]

Can I go through getting an apartment with people without it being way too stressful?

Last year I was everyone's afterthought. It was full of "Oh, everyone but Penguin's seen the house so we're cool to sign the lease" and "Oh, everyone but you can fit in this house so we've decided to kick you out. That's okay, right?" Now I'm holding the cards, and it's not that much better.

I've got two groups of two people I want to live with. Neither group would want to live with the other, but I want to live with both of them and I don't want to disappoint either by turning them away. Choosing between friends is not something I like doing.

[Frumple]

"Buddy group one, I love you guys. I love buddy group two, too, but I know you folks don't get along. I'm having a hard time trying to figure out who to ask to come with without being biased.

So, we're going to take the reasonable path. You guys, you're heads. *flips coin*"

And then leave it up to the uncaring but fair gods of statistics (while quietly praying none of them are aware the odds are ever so slightly tilted in favor of heads >_>).