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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41535 on: January 01, 2012, 03:52:16 pm »

I may take a position as a corporate accountant instead of my attorney position.... Everything practical in me says do it. Everything emotional in me says not to. I cannot do criminal law with a corporate 9-5, because that's when the courthouses are open for business....

It's far less bullshit to deal with and actually more money (especially with the vastly reduced expenses). Apparently, my not being a CPA is not a problem, due to my being an attorney and the level of detail that requires. That, plus my previous experience, economics background, basically running the books for several charities, "habit of incredible work ethic" (not my words), and "ability to present complicated topics both understandably and effortlessly," "seem to work in your [my] favor."

My pride, and ego are killing me. From a personal standpoint, I don't give a damn about the lesser amount of money I'd be making in my position as an attorney (though how the fuck I make LESS as an attorney, I'll never know). Though from a practical standpoint, I have to care about making less money when paying off law school and meeting work expenses. Being a FULL TIME Licensed Practicing Attorney has been a dream of mine for decades, since I was a little kid. I enjoy being excellent at what I do and making the opposing counsel hate me for pointing out opposing counsel's incompetence. I enjoy taking down corrupt police officers by exposing the fact that they fucking lie on the stand (until and unless they are able to be writing a speeding ticket in one place and making an arrest in another, different place at the same time). Somebody fucking has to give a shit about Justice and if not an attorney then who? Being an attorney means something to me and yes my foolish pride is wrapped up in that immensely. Nobody goes to medical school NOT to be a doctor. Same thing with law school....

I'm aware this is an incredible opportunity for me. I could make a damn good salary with actual benefits at a corporate job. You don't get that as an attorney taking cases, medical, dental, vision, retirement fund, none of it. Additionally, It's a steady, reliable paycheck coming in without having to worry if some asshole, who is not in jail because of me, will pay me or not. Additionally, being trans, if the corporate non-discrimination policy includes sexual orientation or gender identity, then it might, MIGHT actually be possible for me to transition someday instead of never. Also being in the City of Cleveland, they couldn't fire me on that basis, because of a local ordinance (and only because of said ordinance).
Actual job security and not living in constant fear of being found out as GLBT? ??? Not having to give a shit about people never hiring me again as their (incredibly god damn effective) attorney, because they don't like gays or trans people? ....

It may even end up being an opportunity for me to start my own firm in the meantime. 9-5 is nothing to me, NOTHING, because I would consider an 8 hour day a vacation.... I work a minimum of a 12 hour (incredibly unappreciated and underpaid) day and often 16 hour day. The problem is 9-5 overlaps the hours of the court 8-4.... I cant take criminal cases or really any cases that litigate if I have a 9-5 because I'd have to be at a desk instead of in court.... I could still do transactional/paperwork shit: wills, estate planning, contractual stuff etc. This would vastly reduce my areas of practice. I'd be afraid I'd lose my edge against prosecutors and grow duller by comparison. The criminal procedure, especially local rules, change often enough that you have to keep practicing and actually doing it to know it. That said, I could really start my own transactional firm for nights and weekend appointments, which working people might find more convenient anyhow. I wouldn't rent an office, because screw that with a day job (it would sit empty all day while I was at my day job). It might give me a chance to get a dedicated clients list in that area in the event I really could be a full time attorney again....

I'd have to brush up on Microsoft Excel, which basically means studying that instead of law for a night or three, so nothing by comparison. What's that? A system with defined rules and without crazy unpredictable variables like a jury? Easy. Also, they're talking about me being in charge of a few accountants. I think they were considering having two CPAs under me.... They would actually know what the fuck they were doing. I'd never have to worry about doing another clerk's job for them again.

I am and want to continue to be an attorney. It seems somehow that being an accountant or employed as one, is somehow more lucrative, despite me doing far, FAR less...?

The whole situation is nuts....
« Last Edit: January 01, 2012, 04:00:11 pm by Truean »
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41536 on: January 01, 2012, 04:20:00 pm »

... maybe see if you can swing it with the corporation to have some of the days that the courts are open, off? Say swap thursday-friday for staturday-sunday, or something like that. At the very least make inquiry as to if it'd be a possibility, I'd say. Sometimes that kind of thing can happen. Might be able to do hour shifts, too, at least some days. Depends on what you'd be doing as a CPA and how much your actual presence is needed during the standard work hours.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41537 on: January 01, 2012, 04:31:00 pm »

Honestly, Truean? Sell out, at least temporarily.

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It may even end up being an opportunity for me to start my own firm in the meantime. 9-5 is nothing to me, NOTHING, because I would consider an 8 hour day a vacation.... I work a minimum of a 12 hour (incredibly unappreciated and underpaid) day and often 16 hour day. The problem is 9-5 overlaps the hours of the court 8-4.... I cant take criminal cases or really any cases that litigate if I have a 9-5 because I'd have to be at a desk instead of in court.... I could still do transactional/paperwork shit: wills, estate planning, contractual stuff etc. This would vastly reduce my areas of practice. I'd be afraid I'd lose my edge against prosecutors and grow duller by comparison. The criminal procedure, especially local rules, change often enough that you have to keep practicing and actually doing it to know it. That said, I could really start my own transactional firm for nights and weekend appointments, which working people might find more convenient anyhow. I wouldn't rent an office, because screw that with a day job (it would sit empty all day while I was at my day job). It might give me a chance to get a dedicated clients list in that area in the event I really could be a full time attorney again....

This idea here -- as long as you're not under some kind of exclusivity contract -- sounds like the most practical way for you to raise capital and still be able to offer your services in some manner. What you may lose in edge for courtroom procedure will more than be made up for in your ability to forge a new path for yourself that doesn't involve you being shackled to a law office that is essentially hostile to you. The energy you're using now to fuel your 16 hour days can be easily split between a 9-5 position, and then some night work on the side.

You can't underestimate cash flow as a means to enhance your ability to get things done. And you will slowly be working away at getting yourself into a better position with clients and and connections of your own. You can work toward goals that you wouldn't have thought possible before, and it just might take you a little bit longer to get there. Or it might even be shorter.

I don't know, it just sounds like a practical way to do it, in my opinion.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41538 on: January 01, 2012, 04:32:48 pm »

Yeah, take a vacation until you got your debts paid at least, I think.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41539 on: January 01, 2012, 08:46:58 pm »

I've got to agree with the above sentiments. If you take time to a) take care of yourself, b) take care of your debts, and c) use some newfound free time to wrangle up some clients, you'll be a sharper attorney than ever before. You're staring into the face of an opportunity to get closer than you've ever been to what you really want to be, and all you have to do is grasp it. It will take some time, and you'll have to learn a new skill or two while you wait until you can truly get on your own feet as far as practicing law goes, but you have the chance to really get started in making the world a better place.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41540 on: January 01, 2012, 09:50:23 pm »

Aye, financial stability is a plus. You can probably maintain your skills, if not improve them, with your extra free time. It's a good opportunity.
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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41541 on: January 02, 2012, 03:54:05 am »

Well this year is off to a great fucking start.
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« Reply #41542 on: January 02, 2012, 03:55:19 am »

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Re: Things that made you sad today thread.
« Reply #41543 on: January 02, 2012, 07:44:39 am »

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« Reply #41544 on: January 02, 2012, 03:34:40 pm »

I didn't realize Toady was actually going to move the Time Capsule thread! I feel awful about missing an opportunity whilst simultaniously knowing I never would have posted anything regardless because last time I did I failed utterly. Ah well.
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« Reply #41546 on: January 02, 2012, 09:29:02 pm »

This is way more of a tearjerker than it has any right to be.

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« Reply #41547 on: January 02, 2012, 09:29:15 pm »

My lower abdomen is cramped. Each time I try to curl upwards, or stand up, my muscles solidify and start to hurt. It is very annoying.
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« Reply #41548 on: January 02, 2012, 09:31:36 pm »

This is way more of a tearjerker than it has any right to be.
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« Reply #41549 on: January 02, 2012, 09:31:36 pm »

You are obviously feeling your first ever male period.
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